Talk:Ármin Vámbéry

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
          This article is of interest to the following WikiProjects:
WikiProject Biography (Rated B-class)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.
B-Class article B  This article has been rated as B-Class on the project's quality scale.
 
WikiProject Central Asia (Rated Start-class, Low-importance)
WikiProject icon Ármin Vámbéry is part of WikiProject Central Asia, a project to improve all Central Asia-related articles. This includes but is not limited to Afghanistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Mongolia, Tajikistan, Tibet, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Xinjiang and Central Asian portions of Iran, Pakistan and Russia, region-specific topics, and anything else related to Central Asia. If you would like to help improve this and other Central Asia-related articles, please join the project. All interested editors are welcome.
Start-Class article Start  This article has been rated as Start-Class on the project's quality scale.
 Low  This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
 
WikiProject Hungary (Rated C-class, Low-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Hungary, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Hungary on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
C-Class article C  This article has been rated as C-Class on the project's quality scale.
 Low  This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
 

Identity, names[edit]

  • Vámbéry's own national identity was obviously Hungarian not Jewish as with the case of most Jewish people in Hungary in the 19th century.
  • The place names should be Hungarian first because this was the official language in the 19th century in the Koh. Of course no problem with indicating present-day names or any other often used names from the given age but don't be anacronistic. Zello 13:48, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
  • No, Latin was only official until 1844 and Vámbéry was born in 1832. It is obvious that almost all in his life Hungarian was the only official language of the Koh. But I'm not against to use names which were common or used by the majority of the population that time, for example Pressburg and Svaty Jur. The discussion is only about which we should use on the first place and which on the second. I think official names should be used first, and before 1844 the place names of the historical majority. Zello 18:02, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

"WESTERN EUROPEAN?" "SUNNITE DERVISH?"[edit]

1. Is Bratislava considered western Europe?

2. Why use "Sunnite" as opposed to "Sunni"? Aren't dervishes Sufi? Why modify the term dervish at all?

Adam Holland (talk) 18:22, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

This is pure guess on my part, but MittelEuropa (the German and Austro-Hungarian spheres) are considered "Western" not in the absolute, but as compared to the truly Eastern part of Europe that was in the Russian and Ottoman spheres.
Similarly, while the dervish indeed follow the sufi path of mystic Islam, many, possibly most of them, were Persian in origin, and came from mostly shi'ite background, hence the relevance of the "sunnite" mention, especially in light of the fact that Vambéry was travelling through shi'ite Persia. I hope this helps --Svartalf (talk) 20:31, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

The map is incorrect.[edit]

The "BALKANS" sign in the map is actually around 2000 km more to the east. The sign must be between Budapest and Istanbul. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.70.67.54 (talk) 14:13, 8 November 2012 (UTC)