Talk:Ármin Vámbéry

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Identity, names[edit]

  • Vámbéry's own national identity was obviously Hungarian not Jewish as with the case of most Jewish people in Hungary in the 19th century.
  • The place names should be Hungarian first because this was the official language in the 19th century in the Koh. Of course no problem with indicating present-day names or any other often used names from the given age but don't be anacronistic. Zello 13:48, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
  • No, Latin was only official until 1844 and Vámbéry was born in 1832. It is obvious that almost all in his life Hungarian was the only official language of the Koh. But I'm not against to use names which were common or used by the majority of the population that time, for example Pressburg and Svaty Jur. The discussion is only about which we should use on the first place and which on the second. I think official names should be used first, and before 1844 the place names of the historical majority. Zello 18:02, 31 December 2005 (UTC)


1. Is Bratislava considered western Europe?

2. Why use "Sunnite" as opposed to "Sunni"? Aren't dervishes Sufi? Why modify the term dervish at all?

Adam Holland (talk) 18:22, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

This is pure guess on my part, but MittelEuropa (the German and Austro-Hungarian spheres) are considered "Western" not in the absolute, but as compared to the truly Eastern part of Europe that was in the Russian and Ottoman spheres.
Similarly, while the dervish indeed follow the sufi path of mystic Islam, many, possibly most of them, were Persian in origin, and came from mostly shi'ite background, hence the relevance of the "sunnite" mention, especially in light of the fact that Vambéry was travelling through shi'ite Persia. I hope this helps --Svartalf (talk) 20:31, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

The map is incorrect.[edit]

The "BALKANS" sign in the map is actually around 2000 km more to the east. The sign must be between Budapest and Istanbul. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:13, 8 November 2012 (UTC)