Talk:1941 Los Angeles City Cubs football team

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"Sacramento City College"[edit]

Cbl62, per your revert of my edit in the lead, the way you've wrote it, you are displaying "Sacramento City College" but linking to Sacramento City Panthers football, or 1941 Sacramento City Panthers football team if and when that is created. "Sacramento City College" is the college. "Sacramento City" is the football team. You've got a mix of the two, which is not good form, and not what we've done on thousands of other college football articles including the handful of JC ones that you and I have created over the last few weeks. That this is prose, rather than a table, is not relevant here. Consider 2019 Mississippi Gulf Coast Bulldogs football team or 1972 Arizona Western Matadors football team or 1941 Michigan Wolverines football team or a myriad of over examples of the like. Jweiss11 (talk) 02:35, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's the "Sacramento City" bit that throws me (especially in narrative text, but also in schedule charts). Having been through it on a number of these CC/JC articles, I'm increasingly uncomfortable with "Sacramento City", "Los Angeles City", "Long Beach City", etc. as the short form for applicable "city colleges". In our recent discussion on SFJC, we both agreed in the JC context that an article should be titled "1946 San Francisco Junior College Rams football team". In the JC context, it is awkward to shorten the title to "San Francisco Junior". For similar reasons, I find it awkward/bad form to refer to the team as "Sacramento City", "Los Angeles City", or "Long Beach City". In short, when no disambiguation is needed, a short form (e.g., "Santa Monica" rather than "Santa Monica College") is fine. But where we need disambigution, "Sacramento City College" and "Long Beach City College" are more effective and clear than "Sacramento City". Cbl62 (talk) 10:02, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, well that's something different. You're suggesting the the short names for these programs be changed. If that's the case, then changes need to be made to standings tables, head coaching record tables, names of articles, names of categories, etc. You should consider thought that the official CCAAA standings employ "Pasadena City", "Fresno City", and "Sacramento City". Jweiss11 (talk) 11:52, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should have a discussion about WT:CFB regarding all the tough JC cases. Jweiss11 (talk) 16:09, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]