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Why is it called I Winter Youth Olympic Games? Is it like "I [heart] NY" or something? --Shandristhe azylean 22:18, 25 February 2010 (UTC)


Youth Olympic Games says that the age range is 14-18. Here it says between 14 and 19. Which is right, or could it be worded better? Chris857 (talk) 17:48, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

19 is correct as the FIBT asked the IOC to allow athletes that were 19 to compete in bobsleigh. Intoronto1125TalkContributions 18:05, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Mixed-NOC team event[edit]

There is at least one event in which teams will consist of athletes from different NOCs, the mixed-NOC team 3000 m relay in Short track speed skating. Such teams competed in the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics, and there were extensive discussions on how to handle this. The most controversial issue was how these events ought to be included in the medal table. Inevitably someone will want to maximise their NOC's medal count by including these medals. I have quoted some important consensuses

1.The official term is "Mixed-NOCs" (and "mixed-NOCs team" and "mixed-NOCs team event" etc).
2.Every single medal won must be counted in the medal count. Even if the medal was won in a pure mixed-NOCs team event.
3.The collective label of "Mixed-NOCs" in the medal table will remain and account for every single medal won by a mixed-NOCs team.
4.The Mixed Team (ZZX) code is historical and retained only to describe the 1896–1904 Olympic Games, and is not used in the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics.
5.Medals won by mixed-NOCs teams should not be included in single-NOCs' medal counts. (But given a mention in the articles on the single-NOCs)
— User:AngChenrui

In addition to the above, there was also consensus that the mixed-NOCs entry in the medal table should be unranked, but with a hidden number to facilitate sorting. RE: Issue 1 the term used describing the Short track speed skating event on the official site is mixed-NOC not mixed-NOCs, so the official term may have changed.

A related issue was how to represent these medals on the medal records of the athletes. The article on Yana Egorian (compare with Charles Bennett) represents the consensus arrived at.

Of course, consensus can change so I will briefly state some arguments in favour of the non-allocation of these medals to NOCs.
1. The intent of the mixed-NOC event clearly isn't competition between nations. Quotes to this effect where, if I remember correctly, located on the official page of the Singapore games or of the IOC.
2. The athletes being part of a mixed-NOC team do not represent their NOC, thus their NOC is not awarded the medal.
3. If medals are allocated to separate NOCs the total number of gold medals will exceed the number of events, or, if only showed in paranthesis will lower the readability of the medal table and necessitate explanatory footnotes. This may be possible if there is only one such event, but as a change of consensus should include the other games, past and future, it will still be problematic for other pages. (talk) 01:19, 16 January 2012 (UTC)


Should we merge Yoggl back here? It is awfully short and could use referencing and more explanation. Chris857 (talk) 03:40, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

I think that would be appropriate. Prayerfortheworld (talk) 05:06, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
I went ahead and wrote a bit in here and redirected the smaller 'main article' to the mascot section. Chris857 (talk) 15:42, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Spam filter notice[edit]

This edit broke an item in the table, but I cannot revert it because of the spam filter on Can someone fix this? Chris857 (talk) 19:35, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Wrong translation![edit]

The Motto "Be part of it" was incorrectly translated into German! It is not "Seien dabei" but "Sei dabei"! Please change that, thanks. -- (talk) 17:43, 20 August 2015 (UTC)