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New Headings, deletion of one section, and addition of multiple new sources

I have added new content and new sources to this article.

I added a new section, "Illinois Law Providing Limited Suffrage to Women" to give context to Wells' motivation to form The Alpha Suffrage Club. Many sources I reviewed, including Wells' own statements, cited this law as instrumental.

I also changed 3 Headings in the original article: Historical Context, Difficulties Faced, and Achievements. I thought the sections "Difficulties" and "Achievements" were subjective. For example, Wells' participation in the Parade could be seen as an Achievement rather than a Difficulty because it received such positive publicity. I deleted the section "Historical Context" because I thought it was not directly relevant to this article on the Alpha Suffrage Club. I added new sources throughout the document.

I changed "Ida B. Wells-Barnett" to "Ida B. Wells." The later form is used in the majority of references and sources about her, including those documenting her role in forming the club. Sequoia51 (talk) 12:27, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Sequoia51, I appreciate you taking the time to clean up this article, I see you have done a lot of work. Since this is a joint project, can you please add a note as to why (in the change summary) or add something here to the talk page if you are going to remove a citation OR many citations. Thank you. Jooojay (talk) 07:15, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Here are some of the removed citations - it possible some have been added back already, just trying to figure it out on the talk page since it was not properly documented in the earlier edits.^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]^[5]^[6]^[7]^[8]^[9]^[10]^[11]^[12]^[13]^[14]^[15]^[16]^[17]

References

^ "Hendricks on Patricia A. Schechter, 'Ida B. Wells-Barnett and American Reform 1880-1930' and Schechter, 'Ida B. Wells-Barnett and American Reform, 1880-1930' | H-SHGAPE | H-Net". networks.h-net.org. Retrieved 2018-12-18.
^ "The March Of 1913 | History Detectives | PBS". www.pbs.org. Retrieved 2018-12-18.
^ Rouff, Ruth A. (2010-01-01). Ida B. Wells: A Woman of Courage. Townsend Press. ISBN 9781591943518.
^ Hendricks, Wanda (1997). "Alpha Suffrage Club". Black Women in America: Social Activism. New York: Facts On File, Inc. Press.
^ Gustafson, Melanie (2001). Women and the Republican Party, 1854-1924. Champaign: University of Illinois Press. p. 152. ISBN 9780252093234.
^ "The Supreme Court's Failure To Protect Blacks' Rights". NPR.org. Retrieved 2018-02-19.
^ Lusted, Marcia Amidon (2009-03-01). "Joining the fight.(African Americans Sojourner Truth, Harriet Tubman, Ida B. Wells-Barnett, and Anna Julia Cooper)". Cobblestone – via HighBeam Research.
^ Hendricks, Wanda A.; Pennington, Paulette (1996). "Ida Wells-Barnett Confronts Race and Gender Discrimination". Illinois Periodicals Online (IPO). Northern Illinois University Libraries, Illinois State Library. Retrieved 2018-02-19.
^ Gustafson, Melanie (2001). Women and the Republican Party, 1854-1924. Champaign: University of Illinois Press. p. 152. ISBN 9780252093234.
^ Knupfer, Anne Meis (1995). ""Toward a Tenderer Humanity and a Nobler Womanhood": African-American Women's Clubs in Chicago, 1890 to 1920". Journal of Women's History. 7 (3): 58–76. doi:10.1353/jowh.2010.0419. Retrieved 17 February 2018 – via MUSE.
^ Terborg-Penn, Rosalyn (1998). African American Women in the Struggle for the Vote, 1850-1920. Indiana University Press. p. 99. ISBN 025321176X.
^ "Ida B. Wells - Women's Suffrage Celebration Coalition of Massachusetts". Women's Suffrage Celebration Coalition of Massachusetts. 2017-02-22. Retrieved 2018-02-19.
^ Hendricks, Wanda (1994). "Alpha Suffrage Club". Black Women in America: An Historical Encyclopedia. Vol. 1. Bloomington: Indiana University Press. pp. 25–26. ISBN 0-253-32774-1.
^ Terborg-Penn, Rosalyn (1998). African American Women in the Struggle To Vote' 1850-1920. Indiana University Press. p. 99. ISBN 025321176X.
^ "Ida B. Wells". Women's Suffrage Celebration of Massachusetts. Retrieved 2018-12-15. {{cite web}}: |archive-date= requires |archive-url= (help); Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url= (help)
^ Terborg-Penn, Rosalyn (1998). African American Women in the Struggle for the Vote, 1850-1920. Indiana University Press. p. 99. ISBN 025321176X.
^ "Ida B. Wells - Women's Suffrage Celebration Coalition of Massachusetts". Women's Suffrage Celebration Coalition of Massachusetts. 2017-02-22. Retrieved 2018-02-19.

Looks all of these have been added back or they had a second iteration in the article already - please in the future make note so nobody else needs to go through this comparison. Jooojay (talk) 07:44, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Joojay, thanks for this comment. Yes, I will definitely follow your advice. I am a relatively new editor, so I appreciate any comments and suggestions that can lead to better articles. Sequoia51 (talk) 14:32, 16 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed Restructure

May I propose moving the parade section to before Illinois Suffrage. The parade was in March 1913, lobbying happened after and the law was based in June 1913. The current order is confusing.

Also, ACS was established before the March 1913 parade. Ida B. Wells attended as a representative. Although the two events (club creation and parade invitation) could have been contemporaneous. Ajbooks1837 (talk) 23:10, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Name for Ida

The name issue for the founder is tricky. She seems to be remembered in history as Ida B. Wells, but was known as Ida B. Wells-Barnett for much of her life. When she married Ferdinand Barnett, she kept her last name and hyphenated it with her husband's name as a recognition of her early career as a journalist. This was very unusual at the time.

The Chicago Defender identified her Ida B. Wells-Barnett in 1913. The street newly renamed for her in Chicago (with the advocacy of her family) is named Ida B. Wells Drive. Her joint grave marker with her husband lists here as "Ida B. Wells" with Barnett over both of their names. --Ajbooks1837 (talk) 23:17, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Hendricks on Patricia A. Schechter, 'Ida B. Wells-Barnett and American Reform 1880-1930' and Schechter, 'Ida B. Wells-Barnett and American Reform, 1880-1930' | H-SHGAPE | H-Net". networks.h-net.org. Retrieved 2018-12-18.

[2] "The March Of 1913 | History Detectives | PBS". www.pbs.org. Retrieved 2018-12-18.

[3] Rouff, Ruth A. (2010-01-01). Ida B. Wells: A Woman of Courage. Townsend Press. ISBN 9781591943518.

[4] Hendricks, Wanda (1997). "Alpha Suffrage Club". Black Women in America: Social Activism. New York: Facts On File, Inc. Press.

[5] Gustafson, Melanie (2001). Women and the Republican Party, 1854-1924. Champaign: University of Illinois Press. p. 152. ISBN 9780252093234.

[6] "The Supreme Court's Failure To Protect Blacks' Rights". NPR.org. Retrieved 2018-02-19.

[7] Lusted, Marcia Amidon (2009-03-01). "Joining the fight.(African Americans Sojourner Truth, Harriet Tubman, Ida B. Wells-Barnett, and Anna Julia Cooper)". Cobblestone – via HighBeam Research.

[Ida_Wells-Bernett_confronts_Race_and_Gender_Discrimination-8] Hendricks, Wanda A.; Pennington, Paulette (1996). "Ida Wells-Barnett Confronts Race and Gender Discrimination". Illinois Periodicals Online (IPO). Northern Illinois University Libraries, Illinois State Library. Retrieved 2018-02-19.

[9] Gustafson, Melanie (2001). Women and the Republican Party, 1854-1924. Champaign: University of Illinois Press. p. 152. ISBN 9780252093234.

[Knupfer-10] Knupfer, Anne Meis (1995). ""Toward a Tenderer Humanity and a Nobler Womanhood": African-American Women's Clubs in Chicago, 1890 to 1920". Journal of Women's History. 7 (3): 58–76. doi:10.1353/jowh.2010.0419. Retrieved 17 February 2018 – via MUSE.

[11] Terborg-Penn, Rosalyn (1998). African American Women in the Struggle for the Vote, 1850-1920. Indiana University Press. p. 99. ISBN 025321176X.

[12] "Ida B. Wells - Women's Suffrage Celebration Coalition of Massachusetts". Women's Suffrage Celebration Coalition of Massachusetts. 2017-02-22. Retrieved 2018-02-19.

[13] Hendricks, Wanda (1994). "Alpha Suffrage Club". Black Women in America: An Historical Encyclopedia. Vol. 1. Bloomington: Indiana University Press. pp. 25–26. ISBN 0-253-32774-1.

[14] Terborg-Penn, Rosalyn (1998). African American Women in the Struggle To Vote' 1850-1920. Indiana University Press. p. 99. ISBN 025321176X.

[15] "Ida B. Wells". Women's Suffrage Celebration of Massachusetts. Retrieved 2018-12-15. {{cite web}}: |archive-date= requires |archive-url= (help); Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url= (help)

[16] Terborg-Penn, Rosalyn (1998). African American Women in the Struggle for the Vote, 1850-1920. Indiana University Press. p. 99. ISBN 025321176X.

[17] "Ida B. Wells - Women's Suffrage Celebration Coalition of Massachusetts". Women's Suffrage Celebration Coalition of Massachusetts. 2017-02-22. Retrieved 2018-02-19.

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