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Trelicians don't exist
There have been repeated attempts to add sneaky vandalism to this article mentioning "Trelicians," who don't exist. . This article actually began as sneaky vandalism, and the bad information exists on some outdated wikipedia mirrors, so be please be wary when simply verifying through google. -- Norvy (talk) 03:34, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, what's the deal with the Trelicians anyway? I've heard fragments here and there about them in relation to Angora rabbits. "A people from the south Carpathian mountains in Turkey." Huh? Audrun 19:27, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- People usually comb or pluck the hairs from angora rabbits. They are wool animals, so by definition they are not skinned for spinning. I have heard of people shearing the animals, but my understanding is that that does not produce as good a product of combing of plucking. You're right, it would probably be good to make sure that kind of information is covered somewhere. --Ahc 04:49, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
They can be sheared or plucked/combed, but plucked or combed wool generally appeals more to hand spinners.Giant and German Angoras generally do not molt, so they must be sheared. Ahc is correct, they are not skinned for their wool. :-) Audrun 18:52, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Here is a video of handplucking and spinning courtesy of Don's Angoras
http://www.angoras.co.uk/spinning.wmv Enjoy ! DM
Amongst hobby angora rabbit breeders and growers, the fur is only plucked when in molt, and this is necessary for the health of the animal. If loose strands were allowed to accumulate in the coat, they would consume it when grooming themselves and most likely die of wool block. Also, they would develop painful matts.
Certain angora breeds, such as Germans, and some individuals of other breeds do not molt, and they are clipped with either shears (scissors) or clippers. Most growers use a special clipper from Germany that does not overheat, so that the animal has no discomfort from the blade at all. Great care is taken to make the animal comfortable in all climate conditions. I cannot speak for the commercial industry, but of the pictures I've seen the animals seem to all be sheared using scissors. It also appears that a reasonable amount of length is left on the rabbit in order to avoid accidentally nicking their skin with the scissorts.
I strongly suspect this article was written by a an organization such as [PETA]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_for_the_Ethical_Treatment_of_Animals. For instance, strong terms such as "banned" are used. (PETA cannot ban the use of angora fibers. They might ban a member who purchases something made of it, but it cannot ban the practice unless the legislators are convinced that they are correct in doing so). PETA, and it's violent spinoff organization, [ALF]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Liberation_Front, are usually far out of step with normal, reasonalbe, humane animal treatment. DD —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 14:06, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Full Disclosure: I breed Angora Rabbits, and I am a member of ARBA and NARBC
I would suggest that the section on "human treatment" of Angora rabbits during wool production is misleading with regards to its unsourced statements regarding culling. While I would argue that culling does occur, it is simply not as common or as specific to Angora rabbits as the original poster would lead you to believe. Culling occurs in commercial operations when a rabbit is sold either as a pet, for meat, or for fur. Since (to the best of my knowledge) you do not use the actual hides of Angora for anything, it is much more likely that such a rabbit would be shaved and then sold as meat to a butcher. I would suggest that the original section either needs sources to be cited, or it should be revised to reflect a less biased representation of the facts. Ftwrabbits (talk) 18:07, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Style Problem - Is this a guide?
Hey guys, I found this article quite interesting and the quality in general to be very good. Still, I can't help but feel it's not in line with Wikipedia's style standards.
I got the feeling like this was almost a guide for people interested in owning or breeding these rabbits. For instance, it talks about the amount of fiber in their diet (maybe okay), but says people should check the side of feed bags to confirm the fiber content. That second part is not encyclopedic knowledge about Angora rabbits. That might be encyclopedic about feed bags, maybe.
One give away is the number of times this article says should (10 times). It seems to me like encyclopedic entries talk about what is, not what one should do or how a certain breed should appear. So in many ways, maybe this is just a matter of wording?
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