Talk:Antiqua–Fraktur dispute

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Translation from German[edit]

I have created this article from scratch and using the German verions - de:Antiqua-Fraktur-Streit. I need some counsel on how to proceed for the following points:

The inclusion of the text of the "Normalschrifterlass" in full. In the German article, it is given, but I am not sure how useful it is there - should I translate it and add it ?
{{Template:German}} does not quite work, since the German article hasn't got the the same name. I have added the same text, but is there a better template to use ?

Regards

ACH 20:00, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot for the translation. I think it's okay not to include the whole text of the Normalschrifterlass. It's annoying that such a template requires the article name to be identical. There should be a second one that allows translated article names. ― j. 'mach' wust | ✑ 08:05, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting and well-written article--what a fascinating topic to those of us who are used to scripts feeling like things that are inevitable fixed forever. Thanks a lot! Tpholland (talk) 22:01, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Arguments pro Fraktur[edit]

I intend to give a short overview of pro-Fraktur arguments which are not of socio-cultural but of typographical nature. As I have to retrieve the Reinecke book from the library, please allow a few weeks for this until after Easter. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by LHOON (talk • contribs) 10:25, 22 March 2006 (UTC) sorry forgot to sign! LHOON 10:52, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem! I look forward to seeing what typographical arguments Reinicke puts forth in favor of a typography that gives most people a headache! :-) (I did read Buddenbrooks all the way through in a Fraktur edition once, but it's not something I'm eager to do again.) Angr (talk • contribs) 11:15, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have a visual memory for words ... to recall a word I think of how it looked in a book or newspaper. I am unable to do this with Fraktur. My first attempt to teach myself German was via an edition of the textbook called Heute Abend printed in what I called 'Gothic script'. The typography put me off totally and I gave up. Mikeo1938 (talk) 07:22, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Countries under German cultural influence?[edit]

The article should have a section on the use of fraktur in countries under German cultural influence. Fraktur was widely used in Finland until the 1890s. Newspapers were printed in fraktur in the 1910s. -- Petri Krohn 11:46, 19 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I second that opinion. In Nazi-occupied eastern Europe, Fraktur was used on the German side of bilingual official announcements, and has thus become associated with Nazis, and perhaps wider with German nationalism.

the nazis banned fraktur — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.172.96.141 (talk) 17:13, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, see the article - they did an about face on the issue. Yngvadottir (talk) 18:17, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Update?[edit]

The German article has been considerably expanded with some interesting specifics and no longer spends so much time on Reinecke, whom it characterizes as a leader of the pro-Fraktur side. Possibly someone would like to delete or condense the list of advantages of Fraktur taken from his book and instead put in some of the new material from there. Alternatively, it may be time to retire the note that this article relies heavily on the German one, since they have diverged. Yngvadottir (talk) 17:34, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]