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Harold Barefoot Sanders III

It should be noted that one of Barefoot Sanders' sons, Harold III, is a musician, composer, and owner of Barefoot Music. He created the theme for the reality television series Top Chef, among other shows. - Desmond Hobson (talk) 09:53, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Role In Dallas ISD Desegregation Lawsuit

Looking to add more content to his role in DISD, public response and the resulting effects that has left DISD just as segregated as before. Heyyouoverthere (talk) 12:48, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This article is a biography. It sounds like what you're looking to add might belong in the history section of Dallas Independent School District. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 03:26, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Might be both due to the influence that Sanders had on the Dallas schools and local politics, a good chunk is covered via:

Title:Desegregating Dallas schools : the litigation archives. ^[1] Published:1970-2003. Description:250 linear feet. Format:Archival/Manuscript Material

Heyyouoverthere (talk) 13:47, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://libcat.smu.edu/vwebv/holdingsInfo?bibId=1913973

Possible original research in article

I tagged the following paragraph as possible original research:

On January 9, 2003, a formal hearing was held to determine the legal status of the Dallas ISD. Members of the public came forth and said that the desegregation, while a good thing, did more harm than good and as a result of the white flight than occurred in the late 1970s and early 1980s the school district swung from predominantly white to predominantly minority and now the schools are now in worse shape than ever. Other members asked if Sanders was satisfied with the current outcome or would he like to start busing in students from neighboring Plano or Richardson to rebalance the schools. Sanders offered no answer to any of the public questions but concluded the session by taking all comments into advisement.

The reason I tagged it is that it is sourced to this website, which is a description of the papers held by the law library at Southern Methodist University related to the desegregation litigation. It is possible that the editor who added this paragraph visited the law library, reviewed the archives, and accurately summarized the public hearing held on January 9, 2003, but the use of primary sources is generally discouraged because it frequently leads to original research. (See WP:PSTS, a section of WP:NOR.) It would be much better to cite a secondary source, such as a book or newspaper article, for a summary of the public hearing than to write one based on primary sources such as transcripts, which seems to be the case here. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 04:14, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The information I cited came from the official transcripts and other writings that are part of the collection, such as: Thomas, Brenda. (2008) Desegregating Dallas, the fight for change. M.A. Thesis, Texas A&M Commerce; March hearing set for DISD District hopes to prove it has complied with desegregation order, Dallas Morning News, January 25, 2003; and the television program: Race and Class in Schools: An 'On the Record' Special by local PBS station KERA. Due to the size of the collection, it, as a whole, was cited. I highly encourage you to visit the school and their vast archives, especially the film vaults in Meadows. Heyyouoverthere (talk) 19:47, 15 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

An update: Some members have said that "now the schools are now in worse shape than ever." was editorializing? How so? If the members of the public at the time said such and was reported as such within the news of the day. How is it editorializing to place the same info into wikipedia? And people like Shabazz say it is a copyright violation when he in fact did not visit the archive as I had suggested. I'll be visiting the school's library again in the future and looking to update/expand this article. Heyyouoverthere (talk) 14:59, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Once again I'll soon be visiting the archives at SMU to work on this article. Does anyone have any questions that they would like delved into? Heyyouoverthere (talk) 15:51, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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