Talk:Baron Trimlestown

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A nearly 800 yr old title probably has an heir but that heir is unknown.Alci12 14:38, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ODNB says[edit]

Barnewall, Robert, styled twelfth Baron Trimleston (c.1704–1779), ... Descended from an Anglo-Norman family whose estates in the counties of Meath and Dublin had been extensive, the Barnewalls had by the mid-seventeenth century begun to suffer the consequences of being prominent Roman Catholics. In 1652 the eighth Baron Trimleston was attainted and the family had its lands restored only by the Act of Settlement. The estates were again placed in jeopardy when Robert's uncle, the tenth baron, fought on the side of James II, eventually being killed in 1692. His successor, Robert's father, managed by application to the court of claims to rescue part of the estate. Robert, as a member of a proscribed religion, inherited a title which had no legal recognition; but this seems not to have dampened his aristocratic demeanour or way of life.

What do we think of this "no legal recognition" and "styled"? Cutler 12:58, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Where are they now?[edit]

So, where oh where are they all gone to? And what, pray tell, is their connection with UCD in Belfield, Dublin 4, which appears to be built on the old Trimleston estate- Trimleston avenue is across the road, and new apartments in Clonskeagh are also called Trimleston. I assume the Barnwalls of Trimleston left Trim, County Meath and moved to Dublin. Is this a correct assumption? If so, when did this happen? Why did they move? These guys were a massive presence in Ireland in the 16th and 17th centuries. I believe they also won their precedence claim against the Plunketts of Dunsany in the 1630s, which if I'm not mistaken (and I could be) adjudged this particular branch to be the most senior noble family in Meath. The Plunketts of Dunsany, though, are still in Dunsany Castle in 2008 which must make them unique of all the Irish families that came with the Norman invasion. 86.44.1.115 (talk) 00:30, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Or didn't - the Dunsany Plunketts are sometimes thought to have been Normans, but some, including the 19th Lord Dunsany, very publicly and proudly proclaimed a Late Viking heritage instead (not that Normans and Vikings don't share an origin). It is impressive that they are still there though, and the old place, now perhaps (since the loss of Malahide) the longest inhabited home in Ireland.

Attainded or attainted?[edit]

The blue link for attainded in this article redirects to attainder. In that article, attainted seems to be the only verb used, rather than attainded. Which is correct? Editrite! (talk) 03:12, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]