Talk:Battle of Nuʻuanu

A fact from Battle of Nuʻuanu appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 13 July 2007. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Pali Lookout in Hawaii was originally the site of the bloody Battle of Nu'uanu, where 400 warriors were driven over a cliff by Kamehameha I?

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Confusing read

many parts of this article is written in a confusing way. example: "a dispute arose with Captain Brown over payment. Brown and several of his men were killed,". How can you dispute with a dead man????

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OK, so I'm extremely new to Hawaiian history, and I'm sure this article is full of errors. Please just make the corrections. Don't bitch at me. Palm_Dogg 08:09, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is "Wai'ale" a misspelling of "Waialae"? The only Wai'ale I know of is on Maui and Waialae is next to Waikiki.—Preceding unsigned comment added by OuryLN (talk • contribs) 18:33, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Incompleteness

As you can see, the current article is very incomplete. Editors, of course, are free to edit and change the content, but I am currently assembling a report on this article's subject which is more detailed. I will try to finish the report in several weeks, condense it, then enter the content. Singu larity 08:36, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm...guess not. With a lot of things going on, Iʻm not sure when the report will be finished. Singu larity 10:07, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I respect your effort, but...

There is a lot wrong with the first few paragraphs. Much of what is written is inaccurate, and not particularly relevant. (It took me a few years of study to figure this time period out....so I am not voicing criticism just making an observation.) I would prefer to just eliminate all the stuff about Brown as it relates to the War of Oahu (Kaeokulani vs. Kalanikupule and not the battle of Nu'uanu- Kamehameha vs. Kalanikupule) Brown had been dead for many months before Kamehameha sailed to Oahu. Stokes, and the Greatheed manuscript are relevant authorities on Brown.

Kalanikupule fled the battlefield, likely died later and was then found in a cave. He was sacrificed, but it was a ceremonial sacrifice of his bones. (The dude was suffering from TB and he could not have lived up there in the hills for the length of time noted by many.)

The warriors on the Pali were likely Maui warriors in service to Kalanikupule, and his father. Kahekili They had nowhere to go as Maui was conquered and they had not lands on Oahu to flee to. It is likely they just decided to kill as many of the enemy as they could before going. Dying in battle was an honorable way to go, and better than facing the kahuna of the luakini. 600, if that many. is a very small section of Kalani's army; likely about 10 percent or less. Nu'uanu valley is very large and pretty wide even up toward the Pali. It would be hard to drive 600 people over the edge who hadn't decided to make a last stand. Most of Kalani's people fled the battle up the cliffs of Nu'uanu valley or down the trail into Koolaupoko.

I'm new to Wikipedia, and would be willing to help in an edit of this page, but am uncertain as to the procedures and etiquette. Kamohomoho (talk) 09:13, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Numbers and figures of the battle.

I updated the troop numbers of Kamehameha's army. It was listed as being as many as 140,000 men. This was clearly wrong. All sources cite from 10,000 to 16,000 men at most. I also corrected the numbers for the number of the Oahu army. It had been listed as 20,000 or more, when there clearly was no source or reference of that number anywhere. I changed the number to unknown because the exact figures are not there. I made the changes for the sake of accuracy. Anyone else have any info on the figures?

99.157.16.20 (talk) 20:56, 4 January 2010 (UTC) Rob.[reply]

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