Talk:Bernard von NotHaus

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Pending criminal case[edit]

I have added some detail on the federal criminal charges against this individual. Famspear (talk) 20:20, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Schiff as supporter[edit]

Schiff is a supporter, but not necessarily a notable one. One could support the sentence "Schiff, a supporter of the Liberty Dollar, believes that...." And that doesn't belong in the lede.

I will not write comments about Schiff, because WP:BLP does not allow me to state what any rational person, with a basic knowledge of economics and of the facts of the von NotHaus case, knows to be the truth. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 16:13, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

This is a non-article[edit]

This is pretty much a non article: The arrest & conviction section is much larger than the life story. Plus if the arrest & conviction is that important, there should be a huge section covering the absurdity of the governments allegations that solid gold & silver coins were a counterfeit of unbacked, paper federal reserve notes. --LanceHaverkamp 17:59, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

After a second read, I realize that there is no life story here at all! As it currently reads, it's just a news story about someone's arrest. I'd welcome a biopgraphy, but this isn't one. --LanceHaverkamp 18:02, 23 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lance W. Haverkamp (talkcontribs)
That's a pretty good point. I'm not sure how to merge the two sites. (I'm a newbie here.) But consider me throwing my hat into the ring in favor.GoCubs88 (talk) 02:48, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Until his conviction, I would have agreed that the article should be merged into Liberty Dollar. Now, I'm not so sure. I am sure that no more about the Liberty Dollar should be in this article. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 03:00, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

As of April 8, 2012, it appears that Bernard von NotHaus is still awaiting sentencing. Famspear (talk) 03:12, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

"Coins" versus "rounds", etc.[edit]

An anonymous editor had changed the references in the article from "coins" to "rounds," including one direct quotation from the Associated Press. We cannot change direct quotes merely because we disagree with them, or because von NotHaus disagrees with them. I reverted the material.

The editor seems to think that because von NotHaus said that "we never call them coins," Wikipedia should not call them "coins," either. Sorry, but Wikipedia is not bound by what Mr. von NotHaus says.

As an aside, merely "not calling something a coin" does not make it "not be a coin" under Federal law. Mr. von NotHaus was convicted of passing counterfeit coins -- not merely counterfeit "rounds," as the anonymous editor put it. This is a concept that some people do have problems with: the erroneous idea that someone can make an illegal activity into a legal one merely by avoiding the use of a certain word.

As a further aside, Mr. von NotHaus repeatedly used the term "currency" to describe his Liberty Dollars. If he believed that using the "right" terminology would somehow keep his activity from being illegal, one has to wonder why did didn't also avoid the use of the term "currency". Famspear (talk) 20:02, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

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