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Bosniaks or muslims?
Before the war in Bosnia and Herzegovina todays bosniaks called themselfes muslims.
The term bosniak (bošnjak), not bosnian (bosanac), has emerged during the war.
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COMMENT: In the first days of April it is not Arkan who first atacked Bijeljina but the muslims have made barikades in Bijeljina and the first victimes shoted by the muslim sniper was serb1992, than the town was liberated by Serb paramilitary groups led by Arkan. muslims vanted to take over the controle of the town by force not provoked by anithing. It is true that the arkan was a criminal but the fact is that he liberated Bijeljina and not atacked. Also it is true that in 1991-1992 Bijeljina was the center of the self-proclaimed local Serbian Autonomous Region, organized by the local Serbian authorities but it vas called - SAO Semberija i Majevica. Romanija is the mountine near Sarajevo!!! You shoul also mentioned that majority of the Muslims have fled to (at that time) Yugoslavia!!! [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Milutin Jokić (talk • contribs)
The version of events depicted in the above statement are not true and therefore can not be supported by valid resources.
Version supported by witness statements and official records offer the following version of events.
Arkan and his militia arrived on banks of Drina river on 22 March 1992, where they took control of the crossing. The excuse for their presence at the time was to stem the flow of illegal cattle arriving from abroad and crossing into Serbia, allegedly damaging local producers in the nearby town of Sabac in Serbia. Arkan and his men camped in the area until the night of 30 March, when they moved into Bijeljina.
The night of the 30 of March saw an incident in the centre of the city. The incident led to exchange of small arms fire and hand granades been thrown at two cafes, one owned by the local president of the Serb Radical Pary, and another frequented by a group of Muslim man. There was a prior history of altercations between people involved on both sides, and the culmination of these events was the incident on the night of 30 March. The next morning, Arkan and his milita were welcomed by members of the Serb Radical party and other Serb nationalist structures. One by one, they took control of the local radio station, police station, municipality building, army garrison (whos commander was given a simple choice, to either keep men under his command in the garison, or get shot). The resistance was offered by a small group of Muslims armed with hand guns and hunting rifles. They built a couple of barricades, but this resistance was broken down in the next couple of days.
Following these events, the following weeks and months saw three major developments:
Deportation, persecution and execution of non-Serb population; arrival of Serb refugees from Croatia and other areas where they were persecuted; and an ongoing infighting between rival Serb fractions for the control of the Serb Autonomus Region formed immediately after the so called "liberation" of Bijeljina.
It is also worth noticing that there were no major news reports from Bijeljina in the early days of war. Local Serb journalist filed a report with Sarajevo TV, commenting on "liberation" of Bijeljina and the formation of SAR. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.58.2.157 (talk) 09:49, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- If you want to insert this version in the article, you should provide sources. Your version does not agree with the sources already provided.--Barend 20:57, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
Sources and references
This article lacks sources and references, namely for statistics and statements made in order to make Bijeljina Serb(ian)/Orthodox Christian. Although, I do not dispute that the majority of population of Bijeljina were Serbs before the War in Bosnia and Herzegovina in 1990s, it would be in line with Wikipedia's requirements to support the information stated with sources, references and bibliography. -- Benjamin, 20070124 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.52.200.2 (talk) 10:59, 24 January 2007 (UTC).
“Liberated by Arkan”????
Gosh, who wrote this kind of Greater Serbia disinformation? Arkan was not from Bosnia, he was a criminal warlord, and Bijeljina wasn’t occupied by anyone in 1992. It would be like to say “Estonia was liberated by Stalin in 1940”.
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I think the old map should be used. It looks plan and simple.
Jovan Micic (talk) 14:06, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Koji idiot mijenja u town? Town u engleskom se koristi za mjesta ispod 50000 stanovnika. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.250.43.136 (talk) 18:15, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
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BOSNIAN LAGUAGE DOESN'T EXIST
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BOSNIAN LANGUAGE. BOSNIAKS SPEAK A BOSNIAN DIALECT OF SERBIAN/CROATIAN LANGUAGE that used to be called ijekavski before all the post war nationalist rhetoric took over. Why people keep trying to feed into Bosniaks feelings of inferiority is beyond me. They speak a variant of Serbo-Croation or Croat-Serbian. They will never have a Bosnian language unless they can successfully change the Bosnian dialect of Serbo-Croatian into a brand new language. And no, borrowing Turkish worlds and inserting them into Serbian doesn't count as a new language. The Bosniaks should be ashamed of the linguistic theft they are committing and propagating it all over Bosnian Wiki pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.91.12.113 (talk) 19:15, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
mosque built on place of serbian orthodox church
http://www.pogledi.co.yu/galerija/bijeljina/
OK, I'm not saying that didn't happend, but you need to give a neutral source. Website you gave is so not neutral. It said that bosnian war was civil war (we will know was that civil war or not on february 21, until then it is just bosnian war). And your source said that bogumils did not existed in Medieval Bosnia, witch is a lie. So, how can we be sure that everything else is truth (they lied twice)? --Kahriman 12:21, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
- What will happen on February 21? Nikola 20:18, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
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