Talk:Bilderberg Group

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Criminals invited for the 2015 Bilderberg meeting.[edit]

I suggest adding content related to the invitation of criminals for the 2015 Bilderberg meeting. It has been covered by reliable sources, such as The Guardian [1]. Dornicke (talk) 16:32, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

(Source read) Very amusing account by the Guardian's reporter, but not a foundation for encyclopedic content. I was hoping for something really dramatic based on your earlier pronouncements. Once again, we don't call people "criminals" in the encyclopedia even if the Guardian's reporters like to do that for effect. Acroterion (talk) 16:45, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Agreed. Doug Weller (talk) 16:53, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Well, let's see:
David Petraeus - sentenced 2 years probation and fined 100K for sharing classified files with his mistress. Convicted criminal.
René Benko - sentenced 1 year for bribery of a judge. Convicted criminal.
Douglas Flint, Rona Fairhead, and Stuart Levey - under investigation for HSBC criminal activities in Switzerland.
Except for the last three ones whose personal responsabilites over HSBC crimes are still under investigation, the others are, indeed, convicted criminals. The fact that they are powerful and rich individuals doesn't make them any less criminal. Dornicke (talk) 17:03, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
One reporter's dramatic account of an encounter with security is not a foundation upon which to erect an accusation of criminal association, and we do not describe individuals as "criminals" unless it's their career. Al Capone and Ottis Toole would fairly fit that description. By your criteria an invitation to Daniel Berrigan would support your point of view about Bilderberg. Acroterion (talk) 17:46, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
WP:UNDUE applies here. This is one reporter's account, widely publicised on conspiracy websites. But we aren't a conspiracy website. If this becomes an important talking point in the mainstream media, then perhaps it would belong in the article. Doug Weller (talk) 18:07, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
The fine of 100,000 U.S. dollars imposed on Petraeus was larger than expected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.81.69.201 (talk) 09:39, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
I agree, make sure we reference exactly who said they committed crimes and exactly what crimes they were to avoid POV or undue. Endercase (talk) 18:41, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

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Conspiracy theories[edit]

This is a standard term and of course we have an article with that name. Doug Weller talk 19:20, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

I agree, but it does also have a certain connotation. In addition the current Conspiracy theory article states "A conspiracy theory is an explanation of an event or situation that invokes a conspiracy without warrant." Whereas the late Rockefeller did actually admit into record to one of the reported "conspiracy theories" as seen here: "conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure — one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."
Also per Conspiracy theory the term is "derogatory" and should be avoided. Endercase (talk) 22:19, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
No, he didn't, that's misreading him. We also call people Holocaust deniers, Anti-semites, racists etc. Doug Weller talk 05:38, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
I'm dropping this. Not worth it. Endercase (talk) 08:28, 28 March 2017 (UTC)