Talk:Bill Robinson/Archive 1

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There is a proposal to redirect Bo'jangles to the article.

Please see:

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was speedy delete as an attack page and non-notable biography. -- Kjkolb 06:31, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Bo'jangles

All signs point to a non-notable bio article. The article gives no reason for his supposed Internet celebrity, neither does Google. Crystallina 01:22, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Just some forum member. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 01:27, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete This would be a speedy candidate if the highly POV claims were not theoretical assertions of notability. -- Kicking222 01:41, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Based on some searching, the TS forum named is Teknoscape, which Alexa describes as a "Perth clubbing and raving resource" and which has a ranking of 261,000. The forum is nn, and so is someone whose only claim to fame is his activities there. Fan1967 01:51, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. This page has to be a joke - "The young trooper completed his service in a period of remarkable peacetime and was thus sadly never shot in anger. " --BrownHornet21 03:08, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, nn-bio. --Terence Ong 03:33, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy delete--Peta 03:35, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect to Bill Robinson. 23skidoo 03:57, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy delete as non-notable biography and attack page as the last paragraph. Possible redirect to Bill Robinson although the apostrophe in the middle makes it less likely as a search term. Capitalistroadster 05:18, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per all above. Hey, I'm am notable contributor to some online forums, when do I get my WP article? :) Paddles ^T_C 06:27, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

Capitalistroadster 06:13, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Citations and rewrite needed for Bill Robinson article

The main part of this article is taken word for word from www.tapdance.org's entry on Robinson, and is copyrighted to the International Tap Association. A rewrite is needed. Also, there are at least two assertations that require citation, but I could not find any references for them on Google. redcountess 20:58, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

http://www.kathleenacademy.com/funzone/bojangls.html is a website page that has the exact same information. Not sure which came first, however, the information that has appeared is copyright to the above mentioned. Thought it should be noted. IronCrow 01:19, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

The following comes from the website of the Jefferson Hotel in Richmond, which claims Robinson worked there as a waiter after breaking up with his first partner in 1907 and meet his manager there:

"Born a few blocks from The Jefferson, Bill Bojangles Robinson was raised in the Richmond area. As a young boy, he tap danced on street corners and stairs for coins. Eventually, Bojangles was performing regionally with a dance partner.

However in 1907, he and his partner split, and Bojangles returned to Richmond. In Richmond, Bojangles obtained a position at The Jefferson with the expectation of meeting influential people to forward his career. As Bojangles had anticipated, a producer, Mr. Fortner, stayed at The Jefferson. Fortunately, Bojangles was Fortner’s server in the dining room. After Bojangles “accidentally” spilled soup on Fortner’s white suit, he danced all the way to the kitchen to retrieve a towel.

The following day, Fortner saw Bojangles dancing on the street corner and gave him money so they could meet in New York to discuss business. The two had a lasting relationship and Fortner was Bojangles manager until the day he died." Source: http://www.jeffersonhotel.com/media_highlights.html Rmagnus 20:47, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

In addition to the above, I think the line "...one of the first minstrel and vaudeville performers to appear without the use of blackface makeup" really needs to be considered. He was black to begin with so why would he need to wear black face makeup?I would suggest something along the lines of, "In an era when black people were portrayed by whites who wore blackface, he was one of the first artistes that was accepted to work alongside white people, thus breaking down racial barriers".46.7.85.68 (talk) 13:12, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Bert Williams, the famous early actor, performed in black face. Black actors did have to use black face to "fit in". http://www.pbs.org/wnet/broadway/stars/bert-williams/

Blackbirds of 1928 was not the first all-black Broadway show. What about Runnin' Wild 1923? Is there a way to verify the first all-black show on Broadway? http://www.playbill.com/production/runnin-wild-new-colonial-theatre-vault-0000011928 107.130.244.90 (talk) 01:05, 7 May 2016 (UTC) Shuffle Along 1921? http://www.blackpast.org/aah/shuffle-along-1921 107.130.244.90 (talk) 01:11, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Clorindy: The Origin of the Cakewalk (1898) is often identified as the first black Broadway musical. [1] In Dahomey (1903) is often identified as the first full length such production. [2]--Arxiloxos (talk) 01:31, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

POV

This article reads like a eulogy and needs extensive rewriting. I'd tweak it myself, but I know almost nothing about Robinson. --Ddawn23 09:26, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Slang

I was told that BoJangles means 'sweaty balls' (testicles). Has anyone else herd of this or was I told a lie? The article makes no reference to this. --Jon in California

weblink

Bill "Bojangles" Robinson dances the stairs with Shirley Temple from "The Little Colonel" (1935) YouTube--87.78.88.135 20:32, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Military Service

He was drum major of the band of the 369th Infantry Regiment during World War I, under Jim Europe's direction. --Al-Nofi (talk) 21:52, 29 December 2009 (UTC) Jim Europe was the leader of the band. Noble Sisle was the drum major. Bill Robinson would have been almost 40 years old during WWI. http://www.worldwar1.com/sfjre.htm 107.130.244.90 (talk) 00:58, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

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Birth of Bill Robinson

The article says that he's born on May 25, 1878. But on his grave you can see May 25, 1877. Bill "Bojangles" Robinson's Memorial

Koshka --109.128.120.210 (talk) 23:14, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Assessment comment

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at the very least needs citations Pretty poor organization, a C in my opinion

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