Talk:Bledisloe Cup

Game results

This page should not have any game results or details, only informations about the competitions, like games hosted in different countries. If a game is really important it may be indicated in the History of rugby union matches between Australia and New Zealand page, which now hold details about who won the cup each year. Simon.huet (talk) 13:00, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

I agree with the above results should be held on a different page. In addition Looking through the results list Stadium names should be standardised for example Stadium Australia is listed as Telstra Stadium and also ANZ Stadium in the same list which is confusing as it makes it sound like three different Stadiums. Same with Melbournes Etihad Stadium should be Docklands Stadium.......advertising names should be removed from articles like this and saved for the main article about the Stadium.Anderch (talk) 04:34, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Pavlova

Question, why is "World's Largest Pavlova" listed under See Also? I don't get how it's at all related. Apart from this excerpt from the Pavlova page: "In August 2010, chef Aaron Campbell displayed a 50 square metre rugby-themed pavlova, with the Bledisloe Cup in the centre, in the ChristChurch Cathedral in Christchurch, to raise money for the official charity of the All Blacks." Is that enough for it to belong on this page? Stick (talk) 08:15, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Walker and Hall

The silversmithing firm Walker and Hall had its main factory and workshops in Sheffield, Yorkshire and, as far as I know, only a saleroom in London. Is the article mistaken or is there something unusual about the cup's manufacture? — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 14:37, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Size

I recall my grandfather telling me that is so large as the cup was spec'ed in metric but the makers interpreted it in inches. Can anyone confirm this122.56.206.75 (talk) 09:26, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Flags

The Australian and New Zealand flags are so similar that the columns of small flag icons in the results are completely pointless. Could these be changed to use rugby union emblems (or just colours), so essentially black for NZ and yellow/green for Australia? Otherwise they should be removed completely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.185.232.17 (talk) 06:56, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Bledisloe Cup/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Philipbrough 21:05, 16 October 2007 (UTC)Comment in the History section "Nowadays this trophy is played out to decide which is the 7th and 8th best Rugby Union side in the world. Both sides having been overtaken by South Africa, England, Argentina, France, Fiji and Scotland in the world order." This comment is trash! As a northern hemisphere Englishman, NZ and Oz are seen as two of the best 3 or 4 teams in the world- the comment above originates as a Northern Hemisphere joke due to both teams' poor performance at Rugby World Cup 2007 - needs to be edited out.Philipbrough 21:05, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Last edited at 21:05, 16 October 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 09:49, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Summary (from 1932)

Year	Trophy	Count
1932	New Zealand	1
1934	Australia	1
1936	New Zealand	2
1938	New Zealand	3
1946	New Zealand	4
1947	New Zealand	5
1949	Australia	2
1951	New Zealand	6
1952	Draw	1
1955	New Zealand	7
1957	New Zealand	8
1958	New Zealand	9
1962	New Zealand	10
1962	New Zealand	11
1964	New Zealand	12
1967	New Zealand	13
1968	New Zealand	14
1972	New Zealand	15
1974	New Zealand	16
1978	New Zealand	17
1979	Australia	3
1980	Australia	4
1982	New Zealand	18
1983	New Zealand	19
1984	New Zealand	20
1985	New Zealand	21
1986	Australia	5
1987	New Zealand	22
1988	New Zealand	23
1989	New Zealand	24
1990	New Zealand	25
1991	New Zealand	26
1992	Australia	6
1993	New Zealand	27
1994	Australia	7
1995	New Zealand	28
1996	New Zealand	29
1997	New Zealand	30
1998	Australia	8
1999	Australia	9
2000	Australia	10
2001	Australia	11
2002	Australia	12
2003	New Zealand	31
2004	New Zealand	32
2005	New Zealand	33
2006	New Zealand	34
2007	New Zealand	35
2008	New Zealand	36
2009	New Zealand	37
2010	New Zealand	38
2011	New Zealand	39
2012	New Zealand	40
2013	New Zealand	41
2014	New Zealand	42
2015	New Zealand	43
2016	New Zealand	44
2017	New Zealand	45
2018	New Zealand	46

Summary;

1932 to 1981 New Zealand 17, Australia 4, Draw 1.

19 for NZL cited in the article includes 1931, and the draw.

1982 to 1995 New Zealand 11, Australia 3.

1996 to 2018 New Zealand 18, Australia 5.

MBG02 (talk) 18:49, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Matches

I count 144 games overall and 4 games on neutral grounds. The IP had 146 games and 5 games on neutal grounds. After reverting it, there are 143 games. So some checking is needed. And I will include a "As of: date", which is VERY needed is such summaries!--Anaxagoras13 (talk) 11:51, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Next: 69+69+4 = 142, in the table: 143 games.--Anaxagoras13 (talk) 11:53, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

I count 101 wins for New Zealand, in the table: 102.--Anaxagoras13 (talk) 13:15, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
6 Draws, table:6.--Anaxagoras13 (talk) 16:16, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
37 wins for Australia, table: 37.--Anaxagoras13 (talk) 16:21, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Overall section

Here the useful Overall section was deleted without any explanation, yeah that is wikipedia!--Anaxagoras13 (talk) 12:21, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Red borders in Results table

I've tried really hard to understand why there are red borders round some of the left-hand cells in the Results table, but I give up. As it is not immediately obvious what this means, there needs to be an explanatory note underneath the table. Please can someone help? Rodney Baggins (talk) 11:19, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

The borders were just added in August by user Mr Hall of England without any explanation: [1]. I have no idea either what it means.--Anaxagoras13 (talk) 13:07, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for that Anaxagoras13... @Mr Hall of England: please can you explain the purpose of these edits that you made on 28 August, as you didn't give an edit summary at the time and it's not at all clear what the red borders mean. Thanks, Rodney Baggins (talk) 13:33, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

The red boarders means the host team won the Bledisloe Cup at home.Mr Hall of England (talk) 15:30, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

OK thanks, not sure it's really necessary. I'll add a footnote anyway. Rodney Baggins (talk) 16:57, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

It is not necessary. The home team wins the Bledisloe Cup at home, and if the home team wins the Bledisloe Cup away?  :-) --Anaxagoras13 (talk) 21:40, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Cause we have two users to find the red border unnecessary, I suggest to delete it. What are opinions by other users about it?--Anaxagoras13 (talk) 18:02, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Well I for one would vote to get rid of the borders as they are confusing and unnecessary, and how is it really significant that the host team won at home seeing as there are only two teams anyway? Seems a bit pointless to me! Rodney Baggins (talk) 18:33, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

I wanted to give it one more week, but considering it has no point and that it was added without ANY explanation so that only one person in the world knew what it meant, we should have deleted it in the first place. Making such a thing without explaining anything is ridiculous in wikipedia and borders are completely unusual for something like this, normally the whole line is marked in an unobtrusive color if there really would be a reason for this. So I deleted the borders.--Anaxagoras13 (talk) 12:11, 4 January 2020 (UTC)