Talk:Book of Ingenious Devices
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 THE PNEUMATIC OF HERO OF ALEXANDRIA Shows these devices and principles . The sources cited in the article do not claim invention of any of them by the Musa Bros. They were translators and transmitters and very ingenious but they built on a foundation that should not be ignored. It is not required to be first to be important.J8079s (talk) 04:48, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- Indeed, the water organ they describe well predates their time. This page needs editing to replace the word "invention" with "description", unless there is autonomous evidence that they did indeed invent a particular mechanism, which is quite possible. NPOV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 10:05, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
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