Talk:Bring a Torch, Jeanette, Isabella

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I think it's silly to say "this song is unique among Christmas carols because it's in 3/8 time". Lots of Christmas carols are in compound meter, and can be written as 6/8, 9/8, 3/4, etc. Just because someone once printed it in 3/8 doesn't mean much. I just transcribed it from a recording and it sounds like 6/8 to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.135.195.170 (talk) 21:06, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Very true. Carol of The Bells, like Un Flambeaus, is frequently (but not always) notated in 3/8. Unless someone can cite a reliable source, I will delete the statement by Christmas Eve, 2009. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.154.248.161 (talk) 22:12, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Added the Fred Waring cover version from the 1957 album Now Is The Caroling Season —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.0.175.82 (talk) 18:18, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Not in the lyrics[edit]

"The carol tells the story of two milkmaids, Jeanette and Isabella, who go to milk their cows in a stable in Bethlehem, only to find the baby Jesus sleeping in the manger."

"The two girls run to town to tell the village of the coming of Christ, and the townspeople come with their own torches to view the sight for themselves."

This is noy in the lyrics included in the article. Nothing about milkmaids milking, nothing about them running to tell the village; the narrator of the song is telling Jeannette Isabella (or Jeannette AND Isabella) to bring a torch and run to the cradle. The song is sung TO Jeannette Isabella (or Jeannette AND Isabella), not by them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.154.248.161 (talk) 22:08, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

My French isn't spectacular, but both English translations just aren't so hot to begin with. Quite a few erroneous lines. What's the Wikipedia policy on translations? Do we have to find a specific source showing a translation, or can we correct it ourselves? Sorry, I'm a bit of a n00b. Senorred (talk) 05:56, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Christmas 2009[edit]

Two changes: First, there is no evidence that this carol is unique among Christmas carols in that it's in 3/8 time. No evidence has been presented. I have before me a published version of We Three Kings in 3/8. Bring a Torch is frequently notated in 3/4 time. So that statement is removed.

Also, there is nothing in any version of the lyrics in the article (or any other French or English version that I have found) that says that anyone is a milkmaid, or that the song is sung from the point of view of Jeanette (and Isabella); rather it is clearly addressed to Jeanette. "Bring a torch, Jeanette Isabella" is pretty clear.

Merry Christmas 2009! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.154.250.61 (talk) 13:40, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

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