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Name?

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'Kw' is not, as far as I know, a valid consonantal pair in Japanese. What's up with this article name, then? --GenkiNeko 17:51, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

'Kwai' is a misspelled romanization, also the translation on the page "knighthood society" isn't right, it should be 'way of the warrior society' if anything.... as bu = fight, do = way, and kai = meeting (also used for orginizations and societies)... --Aikidopoi

I'm not an expert, but apparently 'kwai' is an old pronunciation that is seldom used anymore. I found this on http://judoforum.com/index.php?/topic/61858-kan-versus-kwan/page__view__findpost__p__710283. Quickfoot (talk) 21:15, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That looks right. The modern translation for is kai not kwai but kwa is an alternative pronunciation of ka not seen in many areas of Japan anymore. There's more details in the book 18th Century Japan: Culture and Society. --Kaly99 (talk) 23:00, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oldest Club In Europe?

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Currently the articles states:

[the club] in London is the oldest Japanese martial arts club in Europe.

Yet it states in the article about Gunji Koizumi that he arrived in the UK on 4 May 1906. He then travelled to Liverpool, where he took up the post of instructor at the Kara Ashikaga School of Jujitsu.

I would assume that the "Kara Ashikaga School of Jujitsu" was a Liverpool martial club of sorts, so how does the claim by this club square that wheel?81.159.165.171 (talk) 16:37, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

To be the oldest club, you still have to be in existence. A cursory search suggests the Kara Ashikaga school in Liverpool was primarily a correspondence school, and no longer exists. [1]https://bartitsusociety.com/the-case-of-the-imaginary-sensei/ Femme du Pays (talk) 15:41, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]