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Recent changes to and renaming of "misconceptions" section[edit]

I have reverted the recent changes to the Myth section. These changes were proposed about a year ago (see Myth section thread above) and received no support from anyone other than the editor proposing them. The proposed version is here:

Is there any support for these changes? Mr. Swordfish (talk) 19:21, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

I agree with your reversion, the changes are not substantiated and not encyclopaedic. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:52, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
I have no overwhelming opinion - I think I prefer the "misconceptions" way though, but not strongly. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:05, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
I don't like it. There is only one notable misconception, and creating a subsection for that lone myth is silly. How about changing the section title to "flight misconception" or something like that? Sophie means wisdom (talk) 19:24, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Yes, there's just the one. It's something between an urban myth, misconception, and history of scientific ideas. There's also a stray final paragraph which is perhaps attempting to resolve the muddle, but sits somewhat oddly. Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:42, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
There used to be a second misconception about the buzzing of their wings, but it was removed. Agreed it's silly to have a "Misconceptions" section and presint only one. I've retitled the section and removed the sub-section. Mr. Swordfish (talk) 00:47, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
That's clearly an improvement. The main challenge for the article, however, is better citation; and probably a degree of reorganization, too. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:17, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Maybe we need a misconceptions section along with a section or two on "How they fly" or "Source of the buzzing sound". I've always been interested in how insect wings work as compared to bird flight and the airfoil used in planes. Perhaps other readers will share this interest.

In particular, some students might come to Wikipedia, having heard that "bumblebees" can't fly and might like having a choice between "How they Fly" and "Misconceptions". A timeline of changing scientific thought over the years might also be of interest. --Uncle Ed (talk) 16:03, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

A single section, given that this is a subsidiary topic, is certainly all that could be justified without incurring suspicions of WP:COATRACKing. I think you'll find it's reasonably comprehensive now, complete with sources and quotations, and a little history. The history of scientific thought about insect flight is properly the subject of that other article, which is admirably clear on the mechanisms involved. It would not be appropriate to repeat that here. As for the title, I hope you'll agree that "Misconceptions about flight" neatly captures the sorts of search terms that are most likely to be employed. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:49, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Winter Question[edit]

The section on nesting indicates that the Queen enters diapause during winter and that the drones die off, but does not mention what becomes of the workers. I might deduce that they also die off, but it would be nice if this were explicitly stated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:40, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, good suggestion. Done. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:00, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Addition of Information from Study[edit]

I added some information from a study I found through the news regarding the use of pesticides and their effect on the bumblebee's foraging and pollinating abilities. Thought it would be important for anyone coming to this page to find some information on pesticide usage and its effect on bumblebees. I was not entirely to sure where to place the information so I added it along with where pesticide usage was mentioned under population control since development is also discussed to some extent in that section. Ctran24 (talk) 21:15, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Non-foraging behavior[edit]

I am considering building an optical trigger to capture a bumblebee in flight. So, I went to Wikipedia for help in understanding their behavior. Around my house, I rarely see them foraging (actually on the flowers), instead a few of them will spend long periods of time patrolling the area around the flowers. Occasionally, two will fly is close formation for a few seconds. Is this territorial behavior? If it wasn't for the information in the article, I would guess that this is mating behavior. Can anyone elaborate on non-foraging behavior? Mattman944 (talk) 01:01, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

  • You're describing carpenter bee behavior, not bumble bees. Look at the Carpenter bee article fr more info. Dyanega (talk) 20:27, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Thanks, hadn't considered that possibility. Confirmed, not a Bumblebee, shiny abdomen. Mattman944 (talk) 15:10, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

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