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It would be nice to compile a table like the one for Epson Tour at Epson_Tour#Historical_tour_schedules_and_results. In the past there apparently were cumulative results available for at least one year, 2008, at an "archive" page within the Cactus Tour website, http://www.thecactustour.com/archive/results2008.html. That just shows Error 404 to me now. But that was captured by the Wayback Machine, and an archived copy is available at https://web.archive.org/web/20111008044923/http://www.thecactustour.com/archive/results2008.html . It lists all prizes given in all 26 events held in 2008, though it is not clear what monetary prize, if any, that winner Anne Nordqvist garnered in the last event. She won "the trophy".

So far I get, from that and from :

https://web.archive.org/web/20140528004106/http://www.thecactustour.com/images/tourlogo.jpg is a logo of the tour.

https://web.archive.org/web/20141019124507/http://www.thecactustour.com:80/archive.html Mike Brown, Tour Director phone number in 2014

Year Number of
tournaments
Total prize
money (US$)
Prize money (US$)
per tournament
Notes
2022 ? ? ?
2021 25 ? ? https://web.archive.org/web/20211218163007/http://www.thecactustour.com/ shows purse and 1st for all 25 events before a Dec 7 one then the Dec 27 $10k championship cup. https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://thecactustour.com/2021* gives just scattered, incomplete indiv stroke completed
2020 36 $293,764 ? archived 2020? results lists 38 events scheduled but two that were postponed. https://www.thecactustour.com/2020results/event39/StrokeCompleted.html Event 39 stroke completed, not finished. But yay, https://web.archive.org/web/20210602174918/https://thecactustour.com/money/20MoneyList.pdf gives 2020 $ by person, and totals for 2020 & 2019
2019 31 $268,607 ? https://web.archive.org/web/20191106191653/http://thecactustour.com:80/2019results/event31/Stroke.html Event 31 saved only 1 time, too soon.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210602174918/https://thecactustour.com/money/20MoneyList.pdf gives 2020 $ by person, and totals for 2020 & 2019

2018 30 ? ? https://web.archive.org/web/20181031042646/http://thecactustour.com:80/2018results/event30/Stroke.html Event 30 not yet played, come back..https://web.archive.org/web/20190923135807/http://thecactustour.com:80/2018results/event20/Stroke.html

Event 20 detail avail., but seemingly not 27, 29, 30.

2017 30 ? ? https://web.archive.org/web/20200206183759/http://thecactustour.com:80/2017results/event30/Stroke.html detail for 30th event Wigwam ended Nov 2, 2017. Each other under https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://thecactustour.com/2017results*
2016 26 ? ? https://web.archive.org/web/20151106161315/http://thecactustour.com:80/2015resultstpp/event26/Stroke.html Detail for 26th event. All others avail. under https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://thecactustour.com/2016results* also.
2015 25 ? ? https://web.archive.org/web/20151106161315/http://thecactustour.com:80/2015resultstpp/event26/Stroke.html Event 26, Oct 25-27 the Duke, detail incl total purse of this event. Probably all others separately available under https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://thecactustour.com/2015results*
2014 25 ? ? https://web.archive.org/web/20151014232727/http://www.thecactustour.com:80/2014resultstpp/event25/Stroke.html detail of event 25 Ocotillo. Others separately probably avail under https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://thecactustour.com/2014results*
2013 24 ? ? https://web.archive.org/web/20130215021251/http://www.thecactustour.com/2013results.html 2013 all details just first 3 events

http://www.thecactustour.com/2013resultspdf/10_30_13%20Ocotillo.pdf detail 10/30/2013 event. All 24 events separately available under https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://thecactustour.com/2013results* also.

2012 26 ? ? https://web.archive.org/web/20130217011719/http://www.thecactustour.com:80/archive/2012results.html all details for 26 events + AZ womens open = 27?

https://web.archive.org/web/20130119074711/http://www.thecactustour.com/archive/2012officialmoneylist.html official $ by person ("official" probably means leaving out AZ open, could crosscheck that)

2011 22 ? ? https://web.archive.org/web/20130119075415/http://www.thecactustour.com/archive/2011results.html 22 events thru Nov, all detail

https://web.archive.org/web/20130119074651/http://www.thecactustour.com/archive/2011moneyleaders.html cryptic not date-labelled but $ by person, must be 2011 totals by person, could crosscheck

2010 22 ? ? https://web.archive.org/web/20100824202528/http://www.thecactustour.com/2010results.html has 2010 first 15 events through August

https://web.archive.org/web/20120229070749/http://www.thecactustour.com:80/archive/2010leadingmoneywinner.html $ by person; stmt "2010 Season final standings - AZ Open is not Official Money ". can get 2010 $ total from adding 63 persons' $. https://web.archive.org/web/20130119075405/http://www.thecactustour.com/archive/2010results.html 22 events thru Nov 15-17 (so not AZ open) all detail

2009 22 ? ? https://web.archive.org/web/20100826194341/http://www.thecactustour.com:80/archive/2009schedulewinners.html lists 22 events and winner names but not $; https://web.archive.org/web/20130218023606/http://www.thecactustour.com/archive/results2009.html all 22 incl ASU all detail

https://web.archive.org/web/20130218023601/http://www.thecactustour.com/archive/moneywinners2009final.html 2009 money by ea golfer. Can add up 68 persons to get 2009 total.

2008 26 $189,796.00 ? https://web.archive.org/web/20130119075353/http://www.thecactustour.com/archive/2006schedulewinners.html all 26 incl ASU all detail

https://web.archive.org/web/20110117193010/http://www.thecactustour.com:80/results/leadingmoneywinners.html $ by person 2007 and 2008 and totals $247,704.98) for 2007 and 2008 ($189,796)

2007 24 $247,704.98 ? https://web.archive.org/web/20130119075359/http://www.thecactustour.com/archive/2007schedulewinners.html lists 24 events incl AZ open, winner names but not $
2006 28 $ 180,547.98 ? https://web.archive.org/web/20130119075353/http://www.thecactustour.com/archive/2006schedulewinners.html lists 28 events incl ASU, winner names not $

https://web.archive.org/web/20130218023555/http://www.thecactustour.com/archive/leadingmoneywinners08.html gives 2006, 2007, 2008 $ by person and $ total

2005 ? ? ? Were there events in 2005?

--Doncram (talk) 05:02, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: the above table is a work in progress. What was sitting in the draft article, when it was just reviewed by AFC editor User:Nosebagbear was the following very incomplete table (and it was reasonable to remove that, which they did):

Historical tour schedules and results
Year Number of
tournaments
Total prize
money (US$)
Prize money (US$)
per tournament
Notes
2022 ? ? ?
2021 ? ? ?
2020 38 ? ?

Cactus Tour contact, and summary data not available

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I successfully contacted the Cactus Tour, asking specifically for previous years' results, and was told they changed computer systems and did not keep them. Actually there probably hasn't been public interest, due to the relatively low dollars and informal nature of this tour. However, maybe sometime I or someone else could use the archived raw data that I was in fact able to find, and tally up years' total prizes, etc. That would be okay I think, as long as carefully done, as that would be working with primary documents and there would be no way to check the totals, as there exists no other source. --Doncram (talk) 20:52, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

another source, including about how women experience the tour

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Another source to use:[1]

References

  1. ^ Beth Ann Nichols (golfweek). "Cactus Tour not only playing but thriving". The Florida Times-Union. This appears to be reporting/publishing by Golfweek which was republished in Florida Times-Union}}

--Doncram (talk) 21:55, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

to add about McNichols idea/offer and last-minute organizing of first winner-take-all event in 2020

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Economic data/claims about golf in Arizona available around page 35 or so in https://issuu.com/onmediaaz/docs/azgolf_feb21_book_issuu, Arizona Golf Insider - February 2021, Published on Feb 12, 2021, which is a glossy colorful book thing for this issue. pp 18-19:

"The Cactus Tour owner Mike Brown thought Bob McNichols was kidding. During a phone call early last December, the developer of Longbow Golf Club in Mesa made Brown, who has run the women's professional women's golf mini-Tour since 1911, an offer he couldn't believe. "He said to me, 'What do you think about a $10,000 winner-take-all over 18 holes at Longbow for your top four money-earners,'" recalled Brown. "I said, yeah right...

McNichols would raise the money. The event was organized in just 2 weeks. Longbow had had 2 tour events already.

it was a great event. It was Bob's baby.... --Doncram (talk) 23:49, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]