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Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk00:23, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Castner Range under snow
Castner Range under snow

Created by Reywas92 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:46, 25 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Castner Range National Monument; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - n
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: The article is very nice and meets all DYK criteria, but I think the hook needs to be changed, because the cause of the protection of the site was not only the plan to turn it into a recreational area. Castner Range is also important for historical and naturalistic reasons, and in my opinion this should appear in the hook. Alex2006 (talk) 08:43, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    • I've changed that to "used for recreation". It does also have historical and natural importance, but the remediation is less relevant to that purpose – it had already been preserved for those. Or what wording would you suggest? Reywas92Talk 13:35, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Reywas92 and Alessandro57: Just a suggestion for a hook. Shortened and geographically labeled. Once I added (pictured) to your hook it was 199 characters and it might be TMI.
Let me know your thoughts. Bruxton (talk) 14:13, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Much more concise, @Bruxton:, I like it! The first hook sounded like it was written by me (Italian prolixity :-( ) Alex2006 (talk) 15:20, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the quick response. I will wait to see what Reywas92 thinks Bruxton (talk) 16:31, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Bruxton and Alessandro57: I like the original because it shows how long it's been and the purpose of the clean-up. How about
That's 186 characters. Reywas92Talk 00:00, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Still very long... Maybe we could use ALT1, but remove "former" and add "closed in 1966". Alex2006 (talk) 10:05, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I am one who thinks that once we get to parsing the hook, it ends up too literal and complete with no reason to read the article. I will go with Reywas92's suggestion because it still leaves me a reason to click the article. Bruxton (talk) 00:21, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback from New Page Review process

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I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Nice job on the article. Thanks for creating.

Onel5969 TT me 12:20, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]