Talk:Celeste Kidd
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#MeToo advocacy section
[edit]This section of the article is incomplete, obviously prejudiced against Dr. Jaeger, and poorly supported by the citations. For example, op. cit. #15 focuses on another set of persons and a different university, and Jaeger's tenure is mentioned only in passing, and more importantly, it in no way states or implies that the tenure process was a result of or influenced by the ongoing investigation, which this article does. This section should be updated, corrected and brought inline with Wikipedia's NPOV guidelines, or removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:189:8201:B000:6184:3783:3A4:5D5D (talk) 20:13, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
Reason Article
[edit]It is noteworthy that two users, with no edits except to Celeste Kidd, Richard N. Aslin, and Jessica F. Cantlon are working to suppress and hide all evidence of the Reason article that shows that the investigation against Florian Jaeger was apparently malicious and without merit. At worst, this is sock-puppeting from one of those three individuals (or their close associates); at best, it is a politically-motivated attempt to avoid any counter-narrative -- which seems in keeping with the actions of Kidd, Aslin, and Cantlon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 8.42.21.228 (talk) 19:13, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- You will need multiple reliable sources discussing the details of the alleged smear campaign per WP:REDFLAG and WP:NPF. That reason article is not enough. Morbidthoughts (talk) 22:35, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- lol, get outta here you absolute clown — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.64.43.66 (talk) 00:31, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
Objections to the following wording?
[edit]@Augmented Seventh: objects to the following wording:
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In 2016, Kidd alledged sexual harassment by T. Florian Jaeger, a tenured professor at the University of Rochester. The university closed the investigation before it spoke to witnesses Kidd named who could corroborate her claims
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In response, the university paid $4.5 million for an outside investigation led by Mary Jo White which that the professor had made unprofessional decisions in a period from 2007 to 2010, but stated that they did not meet the threshold for sexual harassment under either the policies in force in 2007 or in the policy in force in 2020. The report further found that it did not meet the standard for criminal sexual harassment or retaliation, and found that the complainants' narrative was "largely without factual basis."
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This wording is supported entirely by the cited sources, in particular [1].
I submit that this is the only appropriate wording, given that the source calls into serious question the factual accuracy of the allegations made. Reverting to the previous (and current wording), below undermines this and buries the lede. 142.157.236.100 (talk) 04:36, 13 March 2024 (UTC) 142.157.236.100 (talk) 04:36, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ Herzog, Katie (March 14, 2022). "How an Academic Grudge Turned Into a #MeToo Panic". Reason.
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