Talk:Central African Republic/Archive 1

Updates?

So, what happened in the full and multiparty elections in March 2005? Thanx 68.39.174.150 03:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Possible Inaccuracies

I am confused by the figure under Geography that states that "estimates of the amount of the country covered by forest ranges up to 75%". I do not know where the 75% came from; it is not cited and according to [1], "CAR has a relatively small area of forest — around five million hectares — corresponding to 8% of the country’s territory." Could someone please find the right number? Thanks. --Queenrani 22:21, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

I am confused about the refernce to slave trading up to the year 1910. Where and to whom were these slaves sold?Margelle (talk) 15:44, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

The reference to slave trading is within the country. The forced labor by the state was in essence "slavery", which still exists in a less brutal form there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.218.192.214 (talk) 22:18, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

THE CAR is in the Sahal, which is the transition from rainforest to desert. I lived there 2 years. It is far from 75% forest. 8% seems reasonable. Oonbly the area south of Bangui, as well as the SW corner are deep forest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.46.17.90 (talk) 15:48, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Proposed WikiProject

In my ongoing efforts to try to include every country on the planet included in the scope of a WikiProject, I have proposed a new project on Middle Africa at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Middle Africa whose scope would include Central African Republic. Any interested parties are more than welcome to add their names there, so we can see if there is enough interest to start such a project. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:34, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Circular reference

The link at the bottom of the page (under "see also") to "Civil unrest in the Central African Republic" refers back to the top of the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.94.210.30 (talk • contribs) 11:43, 23 January 2007‎

I've deleted the link. If you want to see what used to be there then it's here. --Cherry blossom tree 12:37, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Sango article?

Can anyone confirm whether this article from the Sango Wikipedia is the article about this country, if so it should be added to the list of interlanguage links. - MTC 18:44, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I confirm Ködörösêse tî Bêafrîka means the country of the CAR in Sango. kodoro = country, ti = of, Beafrika means "heart of africa" in Sangho, which is how they refer to the country due to its location in , well, the heart of africa. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.46.17.90 (talk) 15:51, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Possible Bias

I am also confused. How can a "fair" election exclude candidates? I submit this article for consideration. [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.204.189.231 (talk • contribs) 17:39, 6 October 2007‎

I concur 60.234.217.95 21:47, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Frosty relations with its neighbor Niger?

CAR and Niger don't share a border. What is this supposed to say? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.111.254.11 (talk • contribs) 21:54, 30 October 2006‎

Maybe it means neighbor in the sense that they are in the same general region. However, I could not find any examples of frosty relations at all; this fact needs a citation to back it up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Queenrani (talk • contribs) 02:07, 31 October 2006‎

Possible Reference Material

I haven't got the time to do this myself but I found a story in the UK independent newspaper and thought It mite be useful

Inside France's secret war

For 40 years, the French government has been fighting a secret war in Africa, hidden not only from its people, but from the world. It has led the French to slaughter democrats, install dictator after dictator – and to fund and fuel the most vicious genocide since the Nazis. Today, this war is so violent that thousands are fleeing across the border from the Central African Republic into Darfur – seeking sanctuary in the world's most notorious killing fields

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/africa/article3030349.ece Elstonieo 16:44, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that news cite; I used it to cite the "Death and aftermath" section in Barthélemy Boganda. Here it is formatted inside a cite web template for anyone else to use:

• Johann Hari (2007-10-05). "Inside France's secret war". The Independent. Retrieved 2008-12-18.

84user (talk) 21:44, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with File:Boganda.jpg

The image File:Boganda.jpg is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check

• That there is a non-free use rationale on the image's description page for the use in this article.
• That this article is linked to from the image description page.

This is an automated notice by FairuseBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. --05:10, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Wrote a rationale and re-added the image. This took considerably less time than whomever tagged the article and okayed the removal of the image took. It also seems a more constructive use of time... T L Miles (talk) 17:36, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually FairuseBot is an automatic computer program, not a flesh and blood editor; so it took it absolutely no effort at all to do its work. Conversely, the bot would have no ability at all to create non-free use rationale. (Of course, creating a (valid) rationale for using this non-free image on this article is beyond the ability of a human editor.) —teb728 t c 05:53, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

While I adore the snarky comment, this is not the dispute referenced in the fair use discussion board, but an earlier one. Thanks. T L Miles (talk) 14:53, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

2008 Neutrallity tag

As there is no discussion or even statement of the problem, I'll remove the tag. T L Miles (talk) 17:37, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

I think that the new image http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Central-african-republic_hi_res_ds.png should be uploaded to this page. Anybody agree?Sangonet (talk) 04:08, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

why locked?

--史凡 (talk) 13:46, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Copyright problems?

I was looking for articles that contain mention of Johann Baptist Mehler‎ a prolific author of religious tracts. A search threw up this article.

There is an incline citation in this article, for which there is no full citation in the reference list at the bottom of the article. No problem thinks I, I'll look back through the history of the article and put it back (these type of links often get lost over time if the {{harv}} template is not used).

The edit that placed the text into the article was one of three made on 19 October 2005 by 68.217.134.90 to this page and a copy of the first two edit was was placed into the article Economy of the Central African Republic by the IP address about one and a half hours later. The IP address 68.217.134.90 had made no further edit to Wikipedia since then.

The reason why it may be a copyright violation is that people do not usually go to the trouble of creating an parenthetical referencing and then don't complete the job, but it is a symptom of careless cut and past copyright violation. I have had a look on the web using Google search and, other than Wikipedia mirror sites, I can not find any page that uses the reference (Mehler 2005:150). But of course that does not mean it was not copied.

The edits were full of statistics which had no other citations to back them up so I am going to add {{Citation needed}} to the paragraphs and hopefully someone will be able to find a source for them. -- PBS (talk) 20:45, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Files

• http://www.centrafricaine.info/carflag.swf?file=french.xml
• http://www.centrafricaine.info/carflag.swf?file=english.xml

WhisperToMe (talk) 03:22, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Legal System

Ive removed this section: Over 40% of cases before its legal system involve sorcery or witchcraft.

I do not find this source credible - it does not seem that they are really basing this 40% figure on any actual research. I think it requires more evidence before the claim is made that 40% of the CARs legal cases involve sorcery or withcraft, it is too extreme a claim to make without further substantiation. Furthermore, this leaves the legal system looking rather empty, and in need of more expansion. Ottawakismet (talk) 23:58, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Blood diamonds, child soldiers

I removed the recently-added section "Blood Diamonds and Child Soldiers" because it was out of place and did not fit smoothly with the remainder of the article. The section was about the 2011 documentary The Ambassador, which is about conflict diamonds, smuggling, illegally-obtained passports, and other illegal activities in the Central African Republic.

While there may be a place for a discussion of blood diamonds in the CAR in Wikipedia, it needs to be done in a way that flows well with the existing article.

I also removed the "Central African Republic" section from Blood diamond because it was unsourced. Please see Talk:Blood diamond/Archives/2013#Removal of "Central African Republic" and consider creating an encyclopedic, well-referenced section about the CAR for that article. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 01:22, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Dec 2013 Update: 1,600 French troops enter CAR to quell violence.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-25369663 "The African Union has authorised increasing the number of troops deployed in the Central African Republic to 6,000, say officials...

"CAR haslipped into a cycle of retaliatory religious killings that is not anchored in its past” [Christian vs Moslem] "1,600 French troops deployed there."

"French Foreign Minister, Mr Le Drian told the troops the 'spiral of confrontation has abruptly worsened' ".

"US begins airlift of 850 Burundian troops to CAR"

74.60.161.158 (talk) 17:09, 13 December 2013 (UTC)