Talk:John Chan

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The result of the move request was: Move to John Chan. Cúchullain ^t/c 16:34, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Chan Cho Chak, John → John Chan (Hong Kong civil servant) – His surname is Chan and his given names, including first name and middle name(s), are John Cho Chak. He is best known for his service in the Hong Kong Government as a civil servants for decades. 218.250.158.14 (talk) 17:08, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

John Chan Cho Chak seems less cumbersome than using the long disambiguator. Better yet, how about just move it to John Chan since there are no other articles about any other John Chans? The current dab page at John Chan can be deleted and a hatnote added to this article per WP:TWODABS. — AjaxSmack 05:39, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to John Chan Cho Chak or John Chan Cho-chak, per style used under Hong Kong English for people with Western and Chinese given names. -- 70.24.247.127 (talk) 01:32, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- at any rate, those should redirect here, as well as John Chan Cho-Chak , Chan Cho Chak , Chan Cho-Chak , Chan Cho-chak , John Cho Chak Chan , John Cho-Chak Chan , John Cho-chak Chan , John Chan Chochak , John Chochak Chan , Cho Chak Chan , Cho-Chak Chan , Cho-chak Chan , Chochak Chan -- 70.24.247.127 (talk) 01:32, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Simply John Chan will be good enough given that no disambiguation is necessary. And no we rarely use middle names or other given names to disambiguate unless those names are commonly known in the English language. That Hong Kong manual of style isn't commonly used anywhere else outside Hong Kong. 218.250.158.14 (talk) 09:24, 12 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's a Hong Kong person, and HK is an English speaking locality, where English is also a legislative language. We don't spell UK people using US conventions, I see no reason why we should follow US convention when HK has its own English conventions -- 70.24.247.127 (talk) 04:28, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This peculiar convention isn't even used among Hongkongers, say, on their identity cards or in everyday life. Only one newspaper uses it. Most people simply go by the Firstname Familyname order. 218.250.158.14 (talk) 16:40, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's commonly used in Hong Kong films, and also used in TV credits, so not just newspapers. -- 70.24.247.127 (talk) 23:00, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support move to John Chan per AjaxSmack. Frankly, I don't even think a hatnote is necessary for the other person, unless he ever merits an article. --BDD (talk) 22:33, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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