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Impartiality

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Impartiality is needed here. Before I edited it, only the largest rout of Atlético (and a very old one at that, from 1927) was mentioned. The largest rout of Cruzeiro, that of 6x1 over Atlético in 2011 should be placed, so as for the article to remain neutral.

Besides, a single poll showing Atlético ahead of Cruzeiro was selected, when all other polls, including that of Datafolha, the most serious poll institute in Brazil, from 2014, was not mentioned.189.61.16.215 (talk) 19:51, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A very cheap tactic to select the only poll where they come ahead, and even then slightly. All the polls, I repeat all the polls but that which was selected to be in the article show Cruzeiro ahead of Atlético. Just a few examples below. Furthermore, in 1998 Cruzeiro beat Atlético by 5x1, in 2008 5x0, in 2009 5x0 and in 2011 by 6x1. So Cruzeiro has been having routs in the recent times, whereas the only rout mentioned, and in the detail is one from 1927.

Examples of the partiality

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A 2014 poll by Datafolha (http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/esporte/2014/08/1494430-um-em-cada-tres-torce-para-flamengo-ou-corinthians-aponta-datafolha.shtml):

Pos. Clube Torcida (%) Torcida (numericamente)
Rio de Janeiro (state) Flamengo 18% 36.475.167
São Paulo (state) Corinthians 14% 28.369.574
São Paulo (state) São Paulo 8% 16.211.185
São Paulo (state) Palmeiras 6% 12.158.389
Rio de Janeiro (state) Vasco 5% 10.131.991
Rio Grande do Sul Grêmio 4% 8.105.592
Minas Gerais Cruzeiro 3% 6.079.194
São Paulo (state) Santos 3% 6.079.194
Rio Grande do Sul Internacional 3% 6.079.194
10º Minas Gerais Atlético Mineiro 2% 4.052.796
Rio de Janeiro (state) Botafogo 2% 4.052.796
Rio de Janeiro (state) Fluminense 2% 4.052.796
13º Bahia Bahia 1% 2.026.398
Bahia Vitória 1% 2.026.398
15º São Paulo (state) Portuguesa 1%(**) (Q)2.026.398
Pernambuco Sport 1%(**) (Q)2.026.398
  • Margem de erro de 2,0 p.p.

(**) Não atingiu 1% exato (Q) Quase

A 2012 poll by Datafolha (http://globoesporte.globo.com/futebol/noticia/2012/12/com-dados-exatos-fla-bate-timao-e-flu-supera-facil-lusa-em-pesquisa.html):

Pos. Clube Torcida
Rio de Janeiro (state) Flamengo 16,27%
São Paulo (state) Corinthians 15,56%
São Paulo (state) São Paulo 8,77%
São Paulo (state) Palmeiras 6,77%
Rio de Janeiro (state) Vasco 4,57%
Rio Grande do Sul Grêmio 4,10%
Minas Gerais Cruzeiro 3,24%
São Paulo (state) Santos 2,94%
Rio Grande do Sul Internacional 2,04%
10º Minas Gerais Atlético Mineiro 1,88%
11º Rio de Janeiro (state) Botafogo 1,53%
12º Rio de Janeiro (state) Fluminense 1,46%
13º Bahia Bahia 1,18%
14º Bahia Vitória 1,11%
15º São Paulo (state) Portuguesa 0,51%
Outros 5%
Nenhum 23%
  • Margem de erro de 2 p.p.

A 2014 poll by Datascript (http://oglobo.globo.com/esportes/rmp/posts/2014/08/24/a-voz-do-torcedor-546990.asp ):

Pos. Clube Torcida (%) Torcida (numericamente)
Rio de Janeiro (state) Flamengo 18,1% 36.386.921
São Paulo (state) Corinthians 14,5% 29.149.743
São Paulo (state) São Paulo 8,2% 16.484.582
São Paulo (state) Palmeiras 5,8% 11.659.897
Rio de Janeiro (state) Vasco 4,8% 9.649.570
Rio Grande do Sul Grêmio 3,8% 7.639.243
Minas Gerais Cruzeiro 3,6% 7.237.177
São Paulo (state) Santos 3,0% 6.030.981
Minas Gerais Atlético Mineiro 2,9% 5.829.948
10º Rio Grande do Sul Internacional 2,6% 5.226.850
11º Rio de Janeiro (state) Fluminense 1,8% 3.618.588
12º Rio de Janeiro (state) Botafogo 1,7% 3.417.556
  • Margem de erro não divulgada

A 2013 poll by Paraná pesquisas: http://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.infografiaepoca.com.br/siteEpoca/FTP/812/Nacional_TorcidasdeFutebol_Dez13.pdf

Pos. Clube Torcida
Rio de Janeiro (state) Flamengo 15,95%
São Paulo (state) Corinthians 13,75%
São Paulo (state) São Paulo 7,86%
São Paulo (state) Palmeiras 5,57%
Rio de Janeiro (state) Vasco 4,46%
Minas Gerais Cruzeiro 4,16%
Rio Grande do Sul Grêmio 3,34%
São Paulo (state) Santos 3,14%
Rio Grande do Sul Internacional 2,31%
10º Minas Gerais Atlético Mineiro 2,24%
11º Pernambuco Sport 1,89%
12º Rio de Janeiro (state) Botafogo 1,79%
13º Bahia Bahia 1,73%
14º Rio de Janeiro (state) Fluminense 1,59%
15º Pernambuco Santa Cruz 0,74%
Bahia Vitória 0,74%
17º Paraná (state) Atlético Paranaense 0,58%
18º Pernambuco Náutico 0,45%
19º Paraná (state) Coritiba 0,41%
20º Goiás Goiás 0,36%
21º Ceará Ceará 0,33%
22º Pará Paysandu 0,31%
Outros 1,89%
Nenhum 21,31%
Não sabe 3,12%