Talk:Clusia rosea

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Hi, I get what you are saying about using the source's terminology, "strangles". My feeling is that the general public, Wikipedia's audience, is often woefully misinformed when it comes to science, and this includes botany. I'd guess we'd both agree that Clusia rosea is, basically, a science article. I was once (1970s) "knowledgeably" informed by a gardener friend of mine that the roots of Hedera helix "strangle" the roots of other plants as part of, apparently, some perfidious underground strategy; this evil compulsion was why I should not be helping such an 'immoral' species by propagating grape ivy (in pots, no less).

If a quotation were to be pulled from PIER's source and used as such, that would be fine, although some mention of what constitutes "strangulation" would be quite helpful. The WP article on strangling doesn't mention the plant world. I find that some older sources for scientific articles either are misinformed or else contain misleading, confusing or antiquated language. The original source of the PIER statement may have been working from a British Raj point of view!

In any case, I feel that WP could use an article on the plant survival strategy of "strangling", which it currently seems to lack. I've just tweaked your version of the paragraph for additional clarity; I hope it pleases both of us. Thanks for your ongoing, indefatigable efforts and clear communication. PS: "Scotch attorney???" --Quisqualis (talk) 00:03, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Yes this is a matter of concept and so WP doesn't have sufficient coverage of those slippery things. PIER's source I found that it is Neal 1965 and have added that for now. However 1965 is a long time ago and we should have something more recent. More information about strangling This is about concept, and small changes in one plant's vascularity due to the angle of another's growth which are difficult to verify. What to say and where to say it? Perhaps a brief mention to start at growth habit? It's just a redirect to a section of habit (biology). Scotch attorney Surprisingly not vandalism. I have cited that with Britannica. Invasive Spices (talk) 5 April 2022 (UTC)