Talk:Coasteering

Where was it invented and developed ?

From Marcus Bailie Adventure Activities Licensing Authority Date 5th May 2005

TYF claimed some years ago to have registered the word 'coasteering' as a trademark. It all went quiet for a bit then this new announcement appeared.

I have so far taken the following approach:

1. We congratulate TYF for its new training course. If it reaches an acceptable standard we will likely recognise it as evidence of competence, perhaps in conjunction with local induction. However, if some other provider produces a similar training programme to an acceptable standard we will likely recognise that as well. We encourage all providers to check on the TYF course content and compare with their own training.

2. We do not recognise the validity of the trademark. We believe there is evidence of it being previously and publicly used. (the patent office should have approched AALA for advice as well as TYF who were wishing to register the trademark - observers comment)

For example, Sea Cliff Climbing by John Cleare and Robin Collomb published in 1973 refers to coasteering in text and index. For example, it says "A few enthusiasts believe that coasteering will become popular and has a big future". It finishes this section by saying "The danger is that one day coasteering might become common knowledge and lure some of the many thousands of holidaymaker's on the beaches into attempting 'walks' beyond the frequented bathing beaches". (Many thanks to Brian Davies of Kilvrough Manor for digging out this useful gem at such a timely moment.)

3. We will continue to use the term coasteering on licences where that is the name the provider wishes to continue to use.

Marcus Bailie Head Of Inspection The Adventure Activities Licensing Authority

Article Rewrite needed

This article is in need of cleaning up to reduce advertising links and improve the overview of the activity and and its history. At present it reads very much as if it is two companies promoting their services. The links go to sites which primarily sell acitivity exeperiences. Then on this talk page we have a UK government regulatory authority offering advice to companies about how to receive offical recognition of the standard of their services. In my opinion, all this is not appropriate for an encyclopedia or for Wikipedia since at present it lacks NPOV.

I am prepared to attempt an improved version. Op. Deo 5 July 2005 21:00 (UTC)

In my web survey for the new version just put up, I found that Google gave 250,000 hits for coasteering in the domain .uk, compared to numbers in the hundreds or less for other countries. By far the largest number of hits were related to the British tourist industry. Op. Deo 6 July 2005 12:26 (UTC)

Thank you what a great job you have done of tyding up this page  ! - it tells the story as it should be.

I have been coasteering on Anglsey and Pembroke - Brilliant sport everyone should try it out.

Copyright violation

I have removed the first portion of the article, as it is a copy / paste from a website[1] containing a copyright notification. --Dan East 03:01, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

I've put it back. The website's statement that "The above descriptions are taken from wikipedia online encyclopedia" suggest that the content was derived FROM wiki and not copied from the site TO wiki. Ormondroyd 10:30, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Etymology

Where does the word come from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.44.2.121 (talk) 21:28, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

I would postulate it's a combination of the words "coast" and "Orienteering" (using a map and compass to navigate from point to point in diverse and usually unfamiliar terrain, and normally moving at speed) - Infamouse (talk) 17:09, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

That's what I had assumed, but it's actually from mountaineering, not orienteering. I have added this to the article.--Pontificalibus 16:27, 30 August 2019 (UTC)