Talk:College health
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Page move request
[edit]Most Wikipedia pages use sentence casing instead of title casing. Can someone move this page to College health instead of College Health? I thought originally that College Health was going to turn out to be a magazine or a business instead of a general topic. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:00, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
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[edit]Being a college student myself this article was very informative. I liked how the different aspects of the topic provided any — Preceding unsigned comment added by ARiggins (talk • contribs) 20:54, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
I too agree, as a college student I have both experienced and noticed different aspects of health being affected in college. Mental health more specifically, depression. Environment, social stability, mental state, alcohol are all factors. Vstolick (talk) 6:53 10 September 2022
Revamping Article
[edit]Hey folks!
We're a group of four undergraduate students from McMaster University in Canada. We plan to overhaul this article as a part of a Wikipedia class project focusing on health information. We believe that this article requires significant changes to be made due to the following weaknesses:
The article as a whole is ‘unencylopedic’: it lacks a comprehensive structure, deviates off topic and does not adequately cover the realm of college health in its entirety.
- In particular, there is an excess focus on eating disorders and a complete disregard for other mental health issues such as depression and anxiety, among others.
The article does not provide adequate citations. Citations that are provided are often improperly formatted or outdated.
- For instance, the article cites a study from 1988 when giving a statistic about the ratio of college health staff per 10,000 students. We intend to find a study that is more up-to-date.
The article cites a news article rather than a primary research article to indicate the prevalence of marijuana use among college students. The article is written with poor grammar and utilizes problematic terminology.
- For instance, the article blatantly claims that, “Eating junk food lacks nutrition and proteins. Eventually those calories in the products will build up into fats.” These simplistic claims lack scientific validity and appropriate citations.
The article makes generalized, often subjective statements that do not adequately represent the vast experiences of the student population.
- With regards to weight gain, the article makes an unfounded claim that, “Beginning freshmen enter a new phase that affects the way they eat. They are unaware of their nutrition and they only want something from what they see.”
The article does not adopt a strengths-based approach, as it does not explicitly mention any mental health and wellness services available for college students. Rather, the tone adopted is more derogatory and pejorative.
The article deals primarily with the United States, and does not represent a worldwide view of the subject.
We would specifically like to expand the structure of the article by improving on existing information and adding new subheadings relevant to college health. Our goals with this article include:
Refine the Article’s Focus: provide a more informative break-down of the topic and create a cohesive article that prioritizes the most important issues for those seeking out the information.
Address Article Impartiality: adopt a more objective writing style and reduce the personal biases and stereotypical undertones in the paper; eliminate the possibility of influencing the reader with unreliable information.
Find Credible Sources of Information: incorporate more credible research findings and quantitative data pertaining to mental health and substance use.
Make the Article More Current: incorporate present-day concepts pertaining to adolescents and young adults; include information on the lack of employment opportunities, the use of dating sites/applications, the use of vaping, and the negative stereotypes surrounding youth.
Make the Article More Universal: reconstruct the article so that it offers a worldwide representation of college health, including studies that were conducted in a broader range of geographical locations.
These changes will be occurring over the next five weeks in the hopes of completely overhauling the article. We look forward to hearing any feedback from the Wikipedia community.
Manlymanstan (talk) 00:26, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
Mental Health
[edit]Hi everyone!
We are a group of four pharmacy school students from UCSF in California. For our Health Policy course, we have chosen to edit this article, focusing on the mental health section. We hope to add and expand on the topics of depression, anxiety, ADHD, sleep disorders, and suicide. For each topic, we will discuss the definition, potential prevalence on college campuses, non-pharmacological, and pharmacological treatments. In addition, we want to re-organize the “Adderall” section to fall under the broader “Mental Health” section in order to educate the general public on potential treatments and abused medications on college campuses. Furthermore we will discuss student accommodations (what kind of accommodations people receive, what they need to do to get them, etc.). Xushar (talk) 07:12, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
Changing Title of Article
[edit]Hello!
We are a group of undergraduate students from McMaster University. We were planning on changing the title of this Wiki article to "Post-Secondary Health" to clarify the article's focus on all forms of tertiary education. Any feedback is welcome and we look forward to hearing users' suggestions on this matter. Mckinlas (talk) 01:29, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
Post-secondary education is not a widely used phrase in the US. I like that college health is short and concise but I agree that it is not all encompassing. Perhaps "Higher Education Health" would be another alternative to consider. Kimchow (talk) 03:59, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Hello Kimchow,
Thank you for your insights on this matter. We agree that "college health" is straight-forward and quite clear in what the article is about. Perhaps it is a good idea to keep it as is and not create confusion with an alternative title. We are curious to hear your thoughts on this. Mckinlas (talk) 00:17, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
CP133 2019 Group 4 Peer Reviews (of Group 5 Edits)
[edit]HANNA The edits made by Group 5 have done an excellent job at improving this article. In particular, the group increased the amount of disorders classified under the “Mental Health” section and included statistics justifying why these disorders are pertinent to college healthcare. The addition of a much more in-depth ADHD section, again with statistics, helps to further better describe the array of health issues faced by college students. There are citations for all major claims, and the citations are from reputable sources. Overall, the group meets their stated goal: to expand on the Mental Health section by adding cited information regarding prevalence and treatment
The submitted edits are clearly a neutral point of view. A majority of the changes are statistics presented in a scientific and understandable manner, without subjective/personal qualifiers. Other changes that explain presentation of disease are given in a factual manner, again without subjective qualifiers. 128.218.43.229 (talk) 00:29, 7 November 2019 (UTC)Hanna
CHRISTINE H. Group 5 made substantial improvements and contributions thus far to the “College Health Article”. Numerous sources were added and updated, and more context on several college health topics were added. For example, more information was added to the ADHD section highlighting the issue of stimulant misuse and its prevalence in colleges. There were also substantial sections added highlighting the prevalance of Major Depressive Disorder and Anxiety Disorders in college populations, and subsequent consequences on overall college student health. Important statistics and sources were also added about students suffering from such disorders due to prevalance of sexual assault on campus. Group 5 stated that they hoped to include and expand on topics such as depression, anxiety, ADHD, sleep disorders, and suicide in college health as well as discussing definitions, potential campus prevalance, and non-pharmacological/pharmacological treatments, which I believe they have effectively achieved. ChuynhCP133 (talk) 00:35, 7 November 2019 (UTC) Christine Huynh ChuynhCP133 (talk) 00:34, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
The points that Group 5 added are indeed verifiable with cited secondary sources. These sources are also freely available for readers to check information. For example, in the ADHD section there was a citation added from the American College Health Association which is a secondary resource that includes freely available information. ChuynhCP133 (talk) 00:35, 7 November 2019 (UTC) Christine Huynh ChuynhCP133 (talk) 00:34, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
DANIELLE Yes, Group 5 formatted their edits in consonance with Wikipedia’s manual of style. Every statement made cited a reliable source to journal articles or accredited institutions like NAMI. I will say that even though this group used reputable sources they did rely heavily on one or two sources, which may lead to an unbalanced or biased article. The language used in Group 5’s edits remains neutral and for the most part, the structure is easy to follow along with. Dakoffeditor (talk) 00:36, 7 November 2019 (UTC)Danielle
MELANIE I believe the group’s edits regarding ADHD, anxiety, depression, and sleep orders in relation to college health does improve the article under the “Guiding Framework.” Previously, the topic of mental health in college students was barely touched upon despite being so prevalent on college campuses. Since mental health can encompass many different disease states, I think the addition of the most prevalent mental health disease states in college students are important. All group members did a good job in explaining each mental illness and how they relate to college students with clear citations for piece of each information.
I think the group successfully achieved its goals for improvement because they expanded on the topic of mental health and specified the most prevalent disease states affecting college students in particular. Each group member successfully provided an overview of each mental health disorder and supported their edits with clear citations from primary literature.
There is no clear evidence of plagiarism or copyright violations in the groups’ edits thus far. When I crosschecked the sources of sentence, I could see that each group member successfully reworded the main topics in their own words. In addition, they hyperlinked other Wikipedia articles on specific words in the case that other views would like to have more context on related topics.Melaniegzarate (talk) 00:39, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Yes, the group’s edits substantially improved the article as described in the Wikipedia peer review “Guiding framework.” They added in highly relevant sections on mental health and depression among college students with citations to support their statements. They did a nice job of integrating a variety of sources into their article and steered away from relying heavily on one source. They kept content neutral and achieved their goal of expanding upon the mental health section of the article. If I could make one recommendation, it would be to stay mindful of plagiarism. Dakoffeditor (talk) 00:53, 7 November 2019 (UTC)Danielle
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.218.43.229 (talk) 00:16, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
College health article - moving the cannabis section
[edit]As our group from McMaster has added a section on substance use, we were thinking that the "Trends and Problems of Marijuana Use in College" section might be better classified as a 'Cannabis' section under substance use, rather than under mental health. The section looks great as it is, so we could just move it to the new subheading without any changes. Any feedback on this potential change from the Wikipedia community is welcome! Bigmanlyman (talk) 18:55, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
To provide an update, we have moved "Trends and Problems of Marijuana Use in College" to the "Cannabis" subsection of "Substance Use." We have not made any major changes to the content as we feel strongly about the quality of the section. We encourage any future feedback on this change from the Wikipedia community! Mckinlas (talk) 23:36, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
GA Review
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Reviewer: Ajpolino (talk · contribs) 16:54, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Hi there @Manlymanstan:, sorry for the very long wait at WP:GAN. I'll be able to get through this review over the next couple of days. I hope all is well! Ajpolino (talk) 16:54, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry, got caught up with other things. Starting to go through the article now. Ajpolino (talk) 06:12, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Manlymanstan: Hello, finished my first pass through the article. Comments below. Most are small and should be quick fixes, the one about the lead is a bit larger. I see you haven't edited in some time, so if I haven't heard from you in a few days, I'll mark this review as on-hold (which just means I've done my part and am waiting for you to return). I hope all is well! Ajpolino (talk) 17:55, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Manlymanstan: Hello again, I'm going to close this review since sadly you don't seem to be around right now. Whenever you return (as I hope you do), you can nominate this again just as you did the first time (there's no penalty for having a missed review). I hope all is well wherever you are. Ajpolino (talk) 19:29, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Manlymanstan: Hello, finished my first pass through the article. Comments below. Most are small and should be quick fixes, the one about the lead is a bit larger. I see you haven't edited in some time, so if I haven't heard from you in a few days, I'll mark this review as on-hold (which just means I've done my part and am waiting for you to return). I hope all is well! Ajpolino (talk) 17:55, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
1. It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
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- Mental health>Depression -
Demographically, upperclassmen, college students, and those living off campus...
- What is meant by "college students" here? Are "upperclassmen" and "those living off campus" a subset of "college students" (that's what I imagine when I read it)? If so, it's a weird-sounding list. If not, can you clarify what you mean there? - Mental health>Depression -
The American College Health Association has been established for students with depression to provide resources, programs, and guidelines and promote mental health services.
- I assume this is a typo? It looks like the ACHA was not established specifically for depression. Can you clarify the sentence? - Student health services>Mental health services - What does "high resource needs" mean? Could you clarify?
- Same section -
This growing demand for on-campus...
you haven't mentioned a growing demand (though I assume these is one). The sentence before notes a difference between college and non-college folks, but not a change over time. Perhaps a sentence used to be there but has since been moved? Either way, could you clarify? - Same section -
The interventions used by many of these... people that make up these universities
this sentence is somewhat unclear as written. It's an important point, and should perhaps be expanded into two sentences (or more). It's currently unclear what's meant by "these American universities" (what American universities? the smaller institutions mentioned two sentence ago?) and "a more western approach to mental health" (I'm not sure that has some clear meaning to the average reader; I certainly don't know what to think of when I read it).
- Mental health>Depression -
2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
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- I removed a sentence
It is important to recognize the common symptoms and see a doctor for medication treatments and lifestyle changes to help improve quality of life.
because, while certainly true, it pertains to all the conditions described in this article, and we generally avoid writing in an advisory style here on Wikipedia. - Substance abuse>Alcohol
Alcohol is the most heavily-consumed substance globally..."
I don't have access to the second source at the end of that sentence, but does this have to qualified in some way? The way it's written seems a bit extreme (presumably water is the most consumed substance?).
- I removed a sentence
3. It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
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- The major weird thing about this article as it stands is that the lead is all about how health services are delivered in a college/university setting, so I expected this article to be about "College health services". However, the article is almost entirely about health problems that are common at colleges and universities. Only the last ~15% covers the provisioning of healthcare to college students. So really the article is more about "Health problems in college students". You should either change the lead to summarize the article content (per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section), or expand the article content on delivering healthcare (and maybe contract the content on health problems). Personally, I'd prefer the latter, since I think college health services is undercovered on Wikipedia; but the former would be much easier, so I wouldn't blame you for choosing that path.
4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
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- Mental health>Post-secondary campus services - can you rephrase
Therefore, post-secondary institutions have a responsibility to reach out to students, provide tailored feedback on potential symptoms, aid in creating suggestions for future goals, and facilitate the recovery process.
? We typically avoid taking editorial positions on Wikipedia. If some respected body has asserted that this is the responsibility of post-secondary institutions, you could attribute that assertion to them (instead of saying it in WP:WIKIVOICE).
- Mental health>Post-secondary campus services - can you rephrase
5. It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
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- Some images would be nice. I know "college health" isn't something folks take pictures of, but there are probably plenty of nice images of college health centers, health fairs, health notices that have been posted at college campuses, et al. If you're having trouble finding images, let me know and we can reach out to other groups that might be able to help.
Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
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