Talk:Computational engineering

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Added[edit]

I just added the page, but it needs a lot of work. A whole lot of good info is out there at http://www.siam.org/students/resources/report.php,

This should be listed as computational science and engineering, and the other two should point to the joint one. Wcleveland 07:01, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Computational science redirects to Scientific computing. I am not sure what exactly is the distinction between the three except that Computational science and engineering is a current buzzword while Scientific computing is an old buzzword. Perhaps Computational science and engineering focus more on what one can do that is useful to the science while Scientific computing is about how to do it. My suggestion would be to remove the redirect and proceed as suggested by Wcleveland. This article should be merged in Scientific computing and replaced by a redirect. Jmath666 15:54, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I disagree[edit]

I don't agree that the article "Computational engineering" should be merged with the article "Computational Science"/"Scientific Computing".

IMHO "Computational Science"/"Scientific Computing" deals with computing for science. "Computational engineering", on the other hand, deals with computing for engineering. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sinisa Kolaric (talkcontribs) 20:10, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I also disagree. This article should not be merged with the article Computational Science/Scientific Computing. Computational engineering concerns the mathematical modeling of engineering systems. See http://icme.stanford.edu/about/about.php. Timhoooey (talk) 03:23, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

  • I agree with the above comments (i.e. I disagree!). This article is beginning to move in this direction; see here. Ema--or (talk) 01:32, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

NPOV dispute[edit]

What is the NPOV dispute that is referred to on the article page? Timhoooey (talk) 03:25, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Who knows? It was placed there a year ago with no explanation and no edit summary. I'm removing it until one is provided. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 17:36, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Reads like a college catalog[edit]

This article is almost completely uninformative with regards to what so-called "computational engineering" is and what types of techniques and methods are used. In fact, it reads almost as if it was copied directly from a college course catalog. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.168.173.97 (talk) 17:48, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. Clearly it has some NPOV issues because it reads like an advertisement for some university. As it stands, this article is crap.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.237.252.97 (talk) 04:11, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

I agree completely. I think it should be a candidate for deletion and forward back to computational science. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.101.162.109 (talk) 21:14, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Multiple issues[edit]

This article has many issues with it. A lot of what I want to say is not new, and has been on the talk page for years. Still...

1) Issue of redirect/deletion. The redirects are a mess. Computational Engineering goes to computational science , while computational engineering comes here. Who ordered that? The arguments for deletion/merging are strong, but I think the article can stay. However there needs to be a clear demarcation between the science and engineering, and that this needs to focus on engineering, while the remaining science stuff gets moved to science.

2) Poor writing. No really; this does read like a university course selection manual.

3) Sadly, it seems the relevant WikiProject, WikiProject Engineering have not taken a bigger interest in this article. It has taken 6 years to give a priority rating (still pending at time of writing).

4) I agree with 75.168.173.97's criticism that virtually no information is given on the tools and methods of CSE or its relation (i.e. similarities & differences) to scientific computation. ( PS. Upon nearly a week's reflection I do think there is some info regarding methods and tools, considering the article's length. Ema--or (talk) 06:57, 10 November 2012 (UTC))

5) Solutions. A more engineering perspective (o engineers, where are you? - WikiProject Engineering) is needed. Perhaps material here, here and here, as well as a more detailed discussion on numerical engineering methods, will be the first steps to constructing a much better article.

As is evident, I take a mostly middle-of-the-road POV regarding this article, but I think it is absolute cack and needs to be improved drastically to be taken seriously (which may be why the wikiproject Eng. folks are ignoring it). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ema--or (talkcontribs) 05:17, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

  • Decided to move the page as a result of the above issues; this issue has not been acted over the years. Ema--or (talk) 01:01, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Merge with computational science[edit]

This article should be merged with computational science as CSE/CS&E is just another name for that field. Would somebody initiate the proper procedure to vote on a merge?