Talk:Cumberland

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Boroughs[edit]

This seems to suggest there were a few historic boroughs. It would be good to add some details. MRSC 11:46, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

At the time of the Domesday book, Cumberland was part of Scotland, hence there were no entries for the county in the book. It was certainly NOT part of Yorkshire! Exile 14:41, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually some villages in the south west of Cumberland (the Millom area) were included in Domesday in the Yorkshire section and furthermore I beleive Copeland or Allerdale Above Derwent Ward was memntioned in soem medieval documents as being in Yorkshire (this being before the creation of Cumberland as a county) Penrithguy 19:41, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Merger propsal[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
merged per consensus at Talk:Cumberland (ward). 3 years on and the ward article was still about 2 lines, so a merger was in order. If more significant sources come to light, it could be spun out again. --KarlB (talk) 03:47, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Makes sense to merge Cumberland (ward) into Cumberland, as that article actually has more information about the ward than is in this one, which is very thin content-wise. Lozleader (talk) 21:26, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Oppose: At the moment, with so little information on the ward, the merger may seem sensible, but the ward of Cumberland is a fairly small part of the whole county and is the equivalent of a hundred (county subdivision). Hundreds are notable in themselves and can merit a substantial article – see, for instance, Whorwellsdown. If the two meanings of Cumberland are merged, then the other hundreds of the county will eventually have their own articles, and someone will rightly argue that the ward of Cumberland needs to be demerged from the county. For me, it's better to leave the two as they are. Moonraker2 (talk) 22:19, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

The above discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

Renwick in Allerdale?[edit]

According to the table of parishes and wards in 1821 Renwick is listed as being in Allerdale above Derwent, well unless there are 2 villages called Renwick in Cumberland the only one I know of is or was in Leath Ward and was probably at the time a township of Kirkoswald. I wont change this yet if somebody tells me that there is a Renwick in the west of the county. Penrithguy (talk) 19:08, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

After checking the Vision of Britain site I note that there is no other Renwick in Cumberland as I suspected (seeing as I live not that far from Renwick plus the surname Renwick was my great grandmothers) but it was a seperate parish in 1821 but in Leath Ward so I am going to change it Penrithguy (talk) 00:58, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for putting that right. Not sure how that happened.... Lozleader (talk) 20:39, 5 July 2009 (UTC)