Talk:Dangereuse de l'Isle Bouchard

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Titre Histoire et généalogie de la maison de La Rochefoucauld Auteur Georges Martin Éditeur G. Martin, 1975 Original provenant de l'Université du Michigan Numérisé 9 juin 2006 Longueur 309 pages

Seems to be the only source for the assertion that she was of this house. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.28.74.149 (talk) 08:06, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

According to Peter Stewart on soc.genealogy.medieval, 26 Feb 2021, the idea that Dangereuse, the wife of Aimery I of Châtellerault (and mistress of William IX of Aquitaine), was a daughter of Barthelemy de l'Isle-Bouchard and his wife Gerberge originates in nothing more substantial than a speculation, labelled as such, by the historian Alfred Richard in 1903. A charter ascribed by its editor to 1087 says that Barthelemy and Gerberge had a daughter named Dangerosa, and in a different charter from 1109, Aimery I says his wife is named Dangerosa. That's the entire historical record, and while it makes for an entirely plausible speculation, it doesn't add up to proof. Certainly this Wikipedia article shouldn't present this or any other theory of her parentage as established fact.

There is also no proof whatsoever that Gerberge, the wife of Barthelemy de l'Isle-Bouchard, was a "de Blaison", whether or not this couple were the parents of the Dangereuse of this article. Even the messy and somewhat confused Wikitree page about this Gerberge acknowledges that her parentage is in fact unknown. pnh (talk) 13:40, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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It says that "Adelaide (born c. 1102). There is a theory that her mother was Philippa of Toulouse, in which case she was Raoul de Faye, seigneur de Faye-la-Vineuse (Dangereuse and Aimery I's second son)'s second wife." The year she was born precedes the affair some 14 years, also if the second statement would be true, she would have married here own brother, which also makes no sense of course. Codiv (talk) 16:07, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]