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The article states that "It follows from the book that FSB received a direct order from Russian President Vladimir Putin to kill Alexander Litvinenko". This sounds almost as if the authors had direct proof of Putin ordering the murder.

Actually, the natural scientist Alex Goldfarb and Ms. Litvinenko state that there is no immediate proof that Putin gave the order to kill Mr. Litvinenko. Though the authors do also state that access to Polonium 210 (the murder weapon) is impossible without knowledge of Kreml leaders. (Po210 is generated at a state institute). Hffman 18:04, 9 July 2007 (UTC)hffman[reply]

So, if you read the book, please correct this as more appropriate.Biophys 19:45, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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If you think this article is not balanced, please include references to alternative reviews that criticize the book.Biophys (talk) 13:09, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't realize that a double-agent can claim to be a "dissident" and gain PR points. I learn something new everyday! HistoricWarrior007 (talk) 08:59, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It seems that Someone is disputing that Litvinenko was a double agent:

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Here [in this article] he [HistoricWarrior007] is inserting an unsourced, highly negative biographical assertion as a fact, when he must know (from the main article on that person) that the underlying claim is, at best, contentious.

The edit I made was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Death_of_a_Dissident&action=historysubmit&diff=325015336&oldid=320306913 where I called Litvinenko a double agent.

Here is the definition from Dictionary.com: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Double+Agent

Double Agent – noun

1. a person who spies on a country while pretending to spy for it. 2. a spy in the service of two rival countries, companies, etc.

Since it is questionable whether Litvinenko spied for the UK or not, (that's being disputed), #1 doesn't work. However #2 does. It says that a double agents is a "spy in the service of two rival countries, companies, etc."

Can we agree that someone who works for the KGB is a spy? Can we agree that Litvinenko worked for both, the KGB and Berezevosky's organization? Can we agree that KGB rivals Berezovsky's organization? If you answered yes to all of the above, then congratulation, Litvinenko is a double-agent!

If you disagree, you should read Alexander Litvinenko or pretty much any book about Alexander Litvinenko.

I'm sorry, I thought this was fairly common knowledge. But if you disagree, please revert me, and explain why. HistoricWarrior007 (talk) 01:50, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, the day of the alleged killings, (it was actual but for legalistic reasons we have to say it's alleged) Litvinenko met with Lugovoi. During the day of the meeting:

1. Litvinenko worked for the KGB, and than switched to Berezovski's Intelligence Service 2. Litvinenko knew that Lugovoi was working for the KGB 3. Litvinenko met with Lugovoi to attempt to procure KGB intel for Berezovski. (Anyone want to argue that they met for cookies and tea? Or for any other reason?) Seeing a traitor, Lugovoi used Polonium, allegedly, to send Litvinenko to chill with daemons. Thus Litvinenko was was killed the day he was acting as a double agent.

But hey, next time you are working as a double agent, pretend you are dissident, and try to gain sympathy. HistoricWarrior007 (talk) 00:19, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why revert?

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Why this revert? Book by Klebnikov does not tells anything about subject of this article (the book by Goldfarb and M.Litvinenko). I thought it's obvious. Biophys (talk) 12:19, 24 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Berezovsky was the financer and the initiator of this book, therefore his background is relevant to the article. Please discuss first before making controversial edits and deletions. Nanobear (talk) 12:26, 24 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it tells: According to the book, Putin was appointed the Prime minister of Russia as a result of a secret deal with oligarch Boris Berezovsky. The late Paul Klebnikov called Berezovsky the "Godfather of the Kremlin".[1]. First statement is something indeed claimed in the book "Death of a dissident". Second phrase has nothing to do with the book (the subject of this page). This is WP:SYN. If you have a source that criticizes the book (e.g. because it unfairly described Berezovsky), you should use that source.Biophys (talk) 14:02, 24 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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