Talk:Denali National Park and Preserve/Archive 1

Archive 1

Savage Cabin

I recently visited Denai National Park and Preserve. I would like to get more information about Savage Cabin within the national park. Even the park's website does not fully address the cabin's history. Does anyone know the history of the cabin it's self? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.3.18.225 (talk) 20:01, 21 January 2007 (UTC).

Map is lame

that map on the front of this article is lame. Get a map of alaska and show its location or get a good pic of Denali. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.195.36.133 (talk) 22:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Panorama of Polychrome Mtns.

The panorama of the Polychrome mountains is incorrect. It was taken from the polychrome rest area towards the Polychrome Glaciers. However Polychrome Mountain is behind the picture (on the uphill side) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.137.242.83 (talk) 21:46, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Lack of citing sources

I feel that a lot of information should be cited but it is not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.137.200.88 (talk) 07:21, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Sentences (or phrases) that you believe are questionable or needs citing because of superlatives (for example, "highest in the world"), please add {{cn}} after them. Thanks. Student7 (talk) 18:32, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Land area

Why is the area given in acres and not square miles? 108.254.160.23 (talk) 22:24, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Image map (painting by Heinrich Berann)

I have created an image map of Heinrich C. Berann's painting of Denali. It already has a bunch of links to various features of the park, and hopefully, people will add more. I am adding it to the overview section. The template is set to 1000 pixels, which I think is the minimum necessary considering the detail and the links.

To add to the image map go to Template:Denali ImageMap. ArcticBartek (talk) 13:55, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

The painting of Denali is kind of inappropriate, due to its exaggeration of Mount McKinley's true size... Unprofessional looking.

Funny that it's a work of the NPS, too. People have been trying to tell me for years that any work of the federal government found on Wikipedia is perfectly altruistic and that there's no factual accuracy or POV baggage to be had (to which "fnord" must be the only appropriate response, I suppose). RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 10:20, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Cabin articles

Dunno if anyone is paying attention here. Doing some National Register of Historic Places stub cleanup. I propose that the (by now numerous) individual articles on cabins in the park (which were created by virtue of those cabins being listed on the NRHP) be combined into one article. I don't know if there are additional cabins which aren't on the NRHP, but if so, they could be listed as well. I count 13 cabins on the register, with nine of those having their own articles. None of those articles at present serve any useful purpose on their own, and in practice make the cabins out to be islands unto themselves in the world, which is a bit far removed from reality. This figure did not include Mount McKinley National Park Headquarters District, which contains somewhat more substance, but itself could stand to be merged.RadioKAOS (talk) 00:31, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Having said that, I just discovered Template:NRHP in Denali NP. Bet this would make for one good article rather than ten or more articles which likely won't evolve beyond stubs in my lifetime.RadioKAOS (talk) 00:50, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

I fully support. Several short articles are much less useful than one nice article. Reywas92^Talk 01:14, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

As usual, no one else seems to want to discuss this, which I would attribute to the numerous competing agendas involved here. How about thinking about readers for a change? Uninitiated readers who see this multitude of articles plus supporting pages (such as the template) might be steered into thinking that we're really reflecting what's notable about the park. What I see is a series of permastubs which regurgitate federal government database entries, while we lack articles on key figures in the early history of the park such as James Galen, Grant Pearson and Bobby Sheldon. Is that really how we're serving readers? There is Toklat Ranger Station (Pearson Cabin), No. 4, which offers zero information on the cabin's far more notable namesake, but that's hardly surprising given that most NRHP permastubs offer cherry-picked information based on cherry-picked sources. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 10:20, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Name of mountain

I realize that renaming the mountain "Denali" has a lot of support in Alaska. It also gets 700,000 hits on google, but some of those were for the park and included the name mt. mckinley. "Mt. Mckinley" a more unique combination got 2 million hits. It is also officially mt. Mckinley on US Geodetic Survey maps. Student7 (talk) 13:08, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

It's a national park so the Federal Government has naming rights. The state government doesn't have any control over names of federal property. While it's reasonable to point out that some people call it Denali, Mt McKinley is named by its owner. 137.54.17.183 (talk) 23:41, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

The Park Service isn't all that keen on the McKinley name (the park was after all renamed Denali), but consensus is that the primary name is still Mount McKinley per GNIS, largely due to the sentimental attachment of the Ohio congressional delegation rather than any widespread liking for the name. There's an article on the naming controversy: I've reverted some of 137.x's edits as unnecessarily argumentative rather than declarative in tone. However, I think the latest edit concerning the name in this article puts it a biit more neutrally than it was before. Acroterion (talk) 00:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Moved more generalized discussion to Talk:Denali#More on the naming issue. Of help to coverage of this topic is the following: I recently changed Eureka, Alaska from a redirect to a dab page. The redirect was to Kantishna, Alaska and was frequently misused, resulting in links to that article which matched references to another place in Alaska named Eureka, near Manley Hot Springs. The editor who delinked the dab page may have caused the inverse of the previous problem, by linking articles to the Manley Hot Springs page when "Eureka" in that context may have actually referred to Kantishna. I asked for help in resolving this, which was predictably blown off. The message I'm getting here is that it's okay for that inaccuracy to stand but not okay for this inaccuracy to stand, vis-a-vis the common versus official name debate currently raging about the mountain. No, I'm not buying that at all. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 10:20, 31 August 2015 (UTC)