Talk:Desolation Canyon

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Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 19:10, 12 December 2012 (UTC) (non-admin closure)[reply]

– The canyon itself is the primary topic. The made-for-TV Hallmark movie is not a particularly well-known movie. The movie article is unqualified due to the historical accident of having been created nine months prior to the article on the canyon, not on any basis of primacy. Although the article for the film currently has a somewhat higher hit count than the article for the canyon itself, that is likely an artifact of the current naming: someone looking for information on the canyon will first be sent to the article on the film, before clicking through on the hatnote to the article on the canyon itself. This will artificially inflate the view count for the movie article, as readers go there in error. Incoming links are about even, with the links for the canyon itself barely edging out those for the TV movie, once you adjust for links intended for the canyon that go to the movie by mistake (which is another basis for the move; that's an expected mistake). Searches outside of Wikipedia overwhelmingly point to the canyon, not the TV movie. TJRC (talk) 19:44, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Clear case of primary topic. mgeo talk 20:34, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support - agreed with nom and mgeo: clear case of primary topic, even if the still WP:RECENT movie had more hits, reliable print sources not wphits should guide what is primary. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:15, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support, straightforward case. Incidentally, the hit stats appear to agree that the canyon itself is more sought-after than the film: The film at the primary topic location receives less than twice the hits of the canyon ([1]/[2]), which most likely means that the majority of those who arrive at Desolation Canyon are actually looking for the canyon's article and clicking on via the hatlink. --87.79.133.209 (talk) 17:34, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.