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From Talk:Disk[edit]

Is that the correct definition of a geometrical disk? AARI a disk is a two dimetional region bounded by a circle. What you appear to have described is a cylinder. -- Daran 21:38, 27 Sep 2003 (UTC)

A disk can have width, in this case -- I am referring to a "representative disk" which has a width approaching 0. LirQ

A quick Google search shows that we're both right. There are two incompatible usages. -- Daran 23:11, 27 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I think the basic idea is that a disk is, essentially, very thin -- ive tried to indicate that in the text. LirQ

Hmm, I came to read this article in the hopes that it would help to clarify why there are two different spellings (disc and disk). Instead I think it left me more confused. I believe the dictionary-style approach (with "1" and "2" preceding two of the usages) is partly to blame; it makes more sense to me to start with "A disk or disc can refer to one of the following...", explaining all the various things that a disk/disc can be, and then devote a paragraph to explaining the divergent spellings in different contexts. So, without further ado, I think I will be bold. -- Wapcaplet 16:59, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I always thought that it was disk because it is a shorthand of diskette, a smaller version of a disc.

Was the term diskette coined for pronounciation purposes; meaning that the S sound would occur if C was in the position of K since diskette would mean a smaller verion of the disc? --SuperDude 01:09, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

If a disk is magnetic media, and a disc is optical, then what is a magneto-optical storage medium called???


Q: Most of this discussion focuses on data storage. What about a grinding disk/disc? (Grinding disks/discs are used in construction.) Is it simply an American/British difference?

Vandalism-- in July 2005, 67.172.138.173 re-ambiguated disk and disc, switching all spellings and referring to Greek root "diskus" instead of Latin "discus" to confuse the matter. However, they left clues. "Whisc" is certainly no English word. I'm surprised the vandalism lasted for over 6 months. Dc3 16:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

disc or disk[edit]

Where should this section go? Does it belong here, since this is a dab page? Gflores Talk 20:02, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

This section was a copyright violation of the American Heritage Dictionary, and was removed on 16 March, 2006 to create a clean disambiguation page. --Blainster 21:16, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Loss of information[edit]

A bold editor removed the definitional and etymological information from the page, assuming it is a good idea to create a "clean", single function disambiguation page. However, this action removed information found nowhere else in Wikipedia. Information destruction is not a good idea unless pointers are created to the information removed. Let's not remove content just to conform to a WP guideline. Unfortunately, it turns out that the etymological section was a copyvio, so it cannot be directly replaced, but some other useful information was also removed from the page. --Blainster 21:03, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

I found the etymological info again, on its own page called 'Spelling of disk'. I linked it, but as Blainster points out, this is still a copyright violation, so I reverted my own edit. Can you tell I'm a newbie?Dc3 05:58, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Move rationale[edit]

Both spellings of disc/disk are commonly used. In some contexts they have different meanings, but their meanings overlap, so they should be disambiguated together. In accordance with wikipedia conventions, distinct spellings are ordered alphabetically. Geometry guy 17:21, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Apologies[edit]

Apologies that I moved "disc" rather than "disk" to this location, and redirected "disk" rather than "disc". I did this because "disc" seemed to be the more detailed of the two dab pages. I only realised afterwards that "disk" had much more history than "disc" and it is unfortunate that this history has not been moved here. I am therefore flagging this now, so that editors can make themselves aware of the history there before editing this page. Geometry guy 19:05, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.


Disc or diskDisc — Spelling differences are not included in the titles of color, defense, cheque, etc.. Also, "disc" is much more common, even in the United States. —Reginmund 21:24, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Survey[edit]

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
  • Support: Spelling differences should not be included in the title. Reginmund 21:24, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Support: The current title sounds ridiculous and confusing. And per the comment above, spelling difference shouldn't be in the title. Chris! my talk 01:46, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Oppose but do another requested move: Actually I have to oppose because disc is the America spelling of disk according to wiktionary. Though the current title is not a good one, using the more common English name is better. So here is my suggestion: the new requested move should be Disc or disk to Disk. Chris! my talk 01:51, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Chris's proposal below for a division is the reasonable one; all the terms spelt disc anywhere should be mentioned in disc, no matter where the article is, and conversely for disk. Even if this results in two identical pages (and I doubt it will), both tagged with {{dab}}, it will serve for navigation, and ensure that all links to the two terms are disambiguated. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 21:07, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Oppose: After some more thinking, I have to oppose. I think the two variants of the word have its distinctive meaning, so a move like this is not right. Chris! my talk 17:22, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Support - a standard disambiguation page will suffice. --Yath 20:28, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Another option. Split Disc or disk into two dab pages. Move Disc or disk (spelling) to Disc or disk since it is an article on the differences. Have both dab pages mention the other and the explanation article. Vegaswikian 00:44, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Kind of support. While the usages for "disc" and "disk" are distinct to an extent, not everyone is aware of the distinction, and the dab page is not too big to deserve such (hair-) splitting; we already have well-established practice of merging dab pages with very similar spellings into one. I don't like "double" titles, and any would serve; preferrably the more "traditional" spelling (well, whichever it is). A coin toss by the closing admin will do, as far as I'm concerned. Duja 09:44, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Any additional comments:
  • should be disk. Actually, on second thought:
    • for computer storage media, disk is correct for magnetic media, and disc is correct for optical media.
    • with respect to "discs" or "disks" in human anatomy, there are sources saying that ophthalmologic uses are referred to as disc and other parts of the body as disk, but another source says that the ophthalmic term is disk and other parts of the body are disc. 69.140.164.142 22:01, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
  • I don't know, I mean WP:SPELLING states that both variants of the word has its distinctive meaning. So now my opinion is this: split the article into two different one. Chris! my talk 02:05, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Have a look at Talk:Disc or disk (spelling) and of course Disc or disk (spelling) as well. Lots going on here. Andrewa 05:17, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Oh my... I don't really care what happens as long as we get rid of Disc or disk, that's just a ludicrous title for an article. Make it disc or disk, or even two separate articles for those who insist that the spelling changes the meaning. Titling it round flat thing would be better than Disc or disk. -dmmaus 05:02, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Disc and Disk are two seperate words according to the British English dictionary and change the meaning and so they should be two different pages. This may be different in an American dictionary.Tbo 157 19:03, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Everybody seems happy with a move to either disc or disk, and to abolish the current title, making way for disc or disk (spelling) to move to disc or disk. A single disambiguation page is preferable to two when the meanings and spellings are so close (and different distinctions are maintained in different varieties of English). Duja suggested a coin toss; the original title of the page was disc, and that was the move proponent's original suggestion, so I'll put it back there. This article has been renamed from disc or disk to disc as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 08:37, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

hi[edit]

ni zai jia wo diao ni a ni ji dian guo lai a ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.142.212.30 (talk) 11:29, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Is analog recording "data storage"?[edit]

Is it correct to put analog disks such as Gramophone and LP records under the "Data Storage" category?? While I guess an analog signal can be called "information", I dubt it can be called "data", or can it? Aren't data discrete in nature by definition? (isn't "data" the plural of "datum"? if so, i guess this answers the previous question). Matteosistisette (talk) 22:52, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

I would tend to think that an analog signal would be considered data. Take a look at Disk storage. If you find a good reference suggesting otherwise, edit! Jim1138 (talk) 05:14, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

DiskOnKey[edit]

Did the DiskOnKey haven't secceed to appear in this list? Galzigler (talk) 10:49, 23 February 2012 (UTC)