Talk:Dyfed-Powys Police
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"The area which it covers is the largest in England and Wales, being nearly 160 kilometres across, greater than the distance from London to Cardiff". Since when is Cardiff only 100 miles from London?" It's more like 150. Owain 19:03, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
On 10 August 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Dyfed–Powys Police to Dyfed-Powys Police. The result of the discussion was moved. |
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[edit]Why is the article name Dyfed–Powys Police with a n-dash rather than just plain Dyfed-Powys Police with a hyphen? MOS:ENBETWEEN says "Generally, use a hyphen in compounded proper names of single entities." This is the proper name of a single entity and reliable sources - the force itself, Home Office, PCC, etc all use a hyphen not a n-dash. --10mmsocket (talk) 16:34, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
Requested move 10 August 2024
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The result of the move request was: moved. Moved as an uncontested request with minimal participation. If there is any objection within a reasonable time frame, please ask me to reopen the discussion; if I am not available, please ask at the technical requests page. (non-admin closure) Waqar💬 15:52, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Dyfed–Powys Police → Dyfed-Powys Police – MOS:ENBETWEEN as above, the MOS:DASH reason given for the previous move doesn't apply here. MOS:ENBETWEEN states:
Generally, use a hyphen in compounded proper names of single entities.
- Guinea-Bissau; Bissau is its capital, and this name distinguishes the country from neighboring Guinea
- Wilkes-Barre, a single city named after two people, but Minneapolis–Saint Paul, an area encompassing two cities
- John Lennard-Jones, an individual named after two families
Dyfed-Powys Police is a single police entity named after the two areas it covers, not an article with a descriptive title on the policing relationship of Powys and of Dyfed. Additionally the force themselves use a hyphen. DankJae 11:07, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hmmm.... See the guidance which says "but Minneapolis–Saint Paul, an area encompassing two cities". This is a police force encompassing two counties. Surely it's the same thing and therefore the n-dash is the right thing to use here? 10mmsocket (talk) 11:43, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- But then again it's the compounded proper name of a single entity, which I think trumps my first argument. TBH it's non-controversial and therefore I would just do it. 10mmsocket (talk) 11:44, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- @10mmsocket,
Wilkes-Barre, a single city named after two people, but Minneapolis–Saint Paul, an area encompassing two cities
. There is no city of Minneapolis–Saint Paul, but an area of two cities of Minneapolis and of Saint Paul. DPP is not two police forces branding as one, but a single police force. Or we should have Austria–Hungary? DankJae 11:58, 10 August 2024 (UTC)- I think you're right - hence my second comment. 10mmsocket (talk) 11:59, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- @10mmsocket,
- Support: Ooof. Much history here, but I think the single entity argument is correct. YorkshireExpat (talk) 17:25, 10 August 2024 (UTC)