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Requested move 11 November 2017
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: moved. Much stronger arguments by those in support. Jenks24 (talk) 04:23, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
Dzau district → Dzau District – as everywhere else for raions Category:Districts of Abkhazia, Category:Districts of Belarus, Category:Districts of Kazakhstan, Category:Districts of Transnistria ... 77.180.152.76 (talk) 23:35, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- This is a contested technical request (permalink). GeoffreyT2000 (talk, contribs) 05:58, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose—Capping the D for "district" is usually not done on WP. MOSCAPS says to minimise unnecessary capitalisation. Tony (talk) 00:16, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
- Comment - "usually not done on WP" - everyone is free to look at the pages given in the RM (Category:Districts of Abkhazia, Category:Districts of Belarus, Category:Districts of Kazakhstan, Category:Districts of Transnistria) and then to decide if the claim by Tony1 is justified by truth or not. Additionally: districts/municipalities in Georgia : Category:Districts of Georgia (country) and elsewhere in WP, cf.: USA Washington County, Belarus Minsk District, Ukraine Desnianskyi District, Kiev, Kazakhstan Abay District, East Kazakhstan, Vietname Thoại Sơn District, Iran Asara District, Russia Dmitrovsky District, Moscow Oblast. 78.55.225.61 (talk) 00:12, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
- Question for clarification/Request for evidence - User:Tony1 now you claimed it, can you provide any evidence for your claim? Any set of districts outside India for which the articles are named "X district" and not "X District"? 78.55.237.211 (talk) 05:22, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose and RM the other articles in the category (and the subcategory names): If you see the original Cyrillic, the word we're translating as "district" is not capitalized. This is the same as ongoing Chinese railway RM: overcapitalization to suit personal preferences, and basically is a form of WP:OR. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ< 05:29, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
- Relevant are rules of the English language, capitalisation of other languages is irrelevant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.55.174.216 (talk) 00:14, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
- Support as is done per WP house style for articles in ~75 other district categories
- EUROPE Category:Districts of Albania, Category:Districts of Austria, Category:Districts of Azerbaijan, Category:Districts of Belarus, Category:Districts of Cyprus, Category:Districts of the Czech Republic, Category:Districts of Georgia (country), Category:Districts of Hungary, Category:Districts of Latvia, Category:Districts of Luxembourg, Category:Districts of Moldova, Category:Districts of Montenegro, Category:Districts of Portugal, Category:Districts of Russia by federal subject, Category:Districts of Serbia, Category:Districts of Slovakia, Slovenia: Category:Districts of Ljubljana, Category:Districts of Switzerland, Category:Districts of Transnistria,
- AFRICA Category:Districts of Algeria, Category:Districts of Botswana, Category:Districts of the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Category:Districts of the Republic of the Congo, Category:Districts of Ghana, Category:Districts of Ivory Coast, Category:Districts of Kenya, Category:Districts of Lesotho, Category:Districts of Liberia, Category:Districts of Libya, Category:Districts of Madagascar, Category:Districts of Malawi, Category:Districts of Mauritius, Category:Districts of Mozambique, Category:Districts of Rwanda, Category:Districts of São Tomé and Príncipe, Category:Districts of Sierra Leone, Category:Districts of Somalia, Category:Districts of South Sudan, Category:Districts of Sudan, Category:Districts of Tanzania, Category:Districts of Uganda, Category:Districts of Zambia, Category:Districts of Zimbabwe,
- AMERICAS Category:Districts of Belize, Category:Districts of Panama, Category:Districts of Paraguay,Category:Districts of Peru, Category:Districts of Suriname,
- ASIA Category:Districts of Afghanistan, Category:Districts of Bangladesh, Category:Districts of Bhutan, Category:Districts of Brunei, Category:Districts of Burma, Category:Districts of Cambodia, Category:Districts of China, Category:Districts of Iran, Category:Districts of Iraq, Category:Districts of Israel, Category:Districts of Japan, Category:Districts of Kazakhstan, Category:Districts of Kyrgyzstan, Category:Districts of Laos, Category:Districts of Lebanon, Category:Districts of Malaysia, Category:Districts of Myanmar, Category:Districts of Nepal, Category:Districts of Pakistan, Category:Districts of Sri Lanka, Category:Districts of Syria, Category:Districts of Tajikistan, Thailand: Category:Districts of Bangkok, Category:Districts of Turkmenistan, Category:Districts of Uzbekistan, Category:Districts of Vietnam, Category:Districts of Yemen
- and also for articles about entities that have other type names including but not limited to the following 100 categories:
- County: (cf. Category:Counties of New South Wales Category:Counties of Albania, Category:Counties of Canada, Category:Counties of China, Category:Counties of Croatia, Category:Counties of Estonia, Category:Counties of Hungary, Category:Counties of Iran, Category:Counties of Jamaica, Category:Counties of Kenya, Category:Counties of Korea, Category:Counties of Liberia, Category:Counties of Lithuania, Category:Counties of Moldova, Category:Counties of Poland, Category:Counties of Romania, Category:Counties of Sweden, Category:Counties of Taiwan, Category:Counties of Uganda, Category:Counties of the United States,)
- Department (cf. Category:Departments of Benin, Category:Departments of Burkina Faso, Category:Departments of El Salvador, Category:Departments of Guatemala, Category:Departments of Honduras, Category:Departments of Mauritania, Category:Departments of Nicaragua, Category:Departments of Niger, Category:Departments of Senegal, Category:Departments of Uruguay)
- Division (cf. Category:Divisions of Bangladesh, Category:Divisions of Malaysia, Category:Divisions of Pakistan, Category:Divisions of British India)
- Governorates (cf. Arabic: Category:Governorates of Bahrain, Category:Governorates of Egypt, Category:Governorates of Iraq, Category:Governorates of Jordan, Category:Governorates of Kuwait, Category:Governorates of Lebanon, Category:Governorates of Oman, Category:Governorates of the Palestinian National Authority, Category:Governorates of Saudi Arabia, Category:Governorates of Syria, Category:Governorates of Tunisia, Category:Governorates of Yemen, Other: Category:Governorates of the Russian Empire, )
- Oblast (cf. Category:Oblasts of Russia, Category:Oblasts of Ukraine)
- Parish (cf. Category:Parishes of Bermuda, Category:Parishes of Dominica, Category:Parishes of Grenada, Category:Parishes of Jamaica, Category:Parishes of Latvia, Category:Parishes of Saint Kitts and Nevis, Category:Parishes of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, )
- Province (cf. Category:Provinces of Afghanistan, Category:Provinces of Algeria, Category:Provinces of Argentina, Category:Provinces of Bolivia, Category:Provinces of Bulgaria, Category:Provinces of Cambodia, Category:Provinces of Chile, Category:Provinces of Costa Rica, Category:Provinces of Cuba, Category:Provinces of Ecuador, Category:Provinces of Fiji, Category:Provinces of Greece, Category:Provinces of Kenya, Category:Provinces of Korea, Category:Provinces of Oman, Category:Provinces of Peru, Category:Provinces of Portugal, Category:Provinces of Rwanda, Category:Provinces of Sri Lanka, Category:Provinces of Thailand, Category:Provinces of Vanuatu, Category:Provinces of Vietnam, Category:Provinces of Zambia, Category:Provinces of Zimbabwe, )
- Regency (cf. Category:Regencies of Indonesia)
- Region (cf. Category:Regions of Belarus, Category:Regions of Chad, Category:Regions of Chile, Category:Regions of Ghana, Category:Regions of Guinea, Category:Regions of Guinea-Bissau, Category:Regions of Ivory Coast, Category:Regions of Kazakhstan, Category:Regions of Kyrgyzstan, Category:Regions of Mali, Category:Regions of Namibia, Category:Regions of Niger, Category:Regions of Peru, Category:Regions of Senegal, Category:Regions of Slovakia, Category:Regions of Tajikistan, Category:Regions of Turkmenistan, Category:Regions of Uzbekistan, ...)
- Territory (cf. Category:Former organized territories of the United States)
- Township (cf. Category:Townships of the United States)
- Zone (cf. Category:Zones of Nepal)
- More than 10000 articles have the type name uppercase, treat this district of South Ossetia-Alania according to the Wikipedia house style. 80.171.244.231 (talk) 19:12, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
- Support —Michael Z. 2017-11-12 01:42 z
- Support. Using lowercase "district" (or a similar entity identifier) is not the norm at all. Yes, MOSCAPS instructs to avoid unnecessary capitalization, but customary English usage puts article titles of this kind very much out of the "unnecessary" territory. Lowercase here looks odd, is not supported by sources (or at least no one has bothered to point them out), and I see no convincing argument for why it should stay that way. How this is handled in the Georgian or Ossetian languages is very much irrelevant, as this is the English Wikipedia. Also, consider consistency. Even if you think capitalizing or not capitalizing the entity identifier falls into a grey area of Wikipedia guidelines, in absence of a convincing argument either way, it still makes sense to choose an approach that's most similar to what's being used elsewhere, if only to minimize maintenance.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); November 14, 2017; 21:35 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
WP:CFD C2D
[edit]User:Tony1 continues to oppose suggestions to apply WP standards on South Ossetia related pages, now opposing C2D: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Speedy&diff=811171528&oldid=811169937 78.55.24.97 (talk) 12:04, 20 November 2017 (UTC)