Talk:Edible Book Festival
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A fact from this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the On this day section on 11 dates. [show] |
Recommended for deletion. Reason: no credible citations.
[edit]first reference goes nowhere. http://week.manoramaonline.com/cgi-bin/MMOnline.dll/portal/ep/theWeekContent.do?BV_ID=@@@&contentType=EDITORIAL§ionName=TheWeek%20Lifestyle&programId=1073755413&contentId=6895557
second reference goes nowhere: http://www.books2eat.com/Books2eat/books2eat.html
third reference is in a google books page that actually has no content: http://books.google.co.in/books?id=VFa4ctd1ReUC&pg=PA25&dq=%22edible+book%22+day&hl=en&ei=5RCiS4_-MYHHrAfD0JDbCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CD8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22edible%20book%22%20day&f=false
fourth reference appears to be a republished PR in the corner of a magazine page from 2005: http://books.google.co.in/books?id=Q18EAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA156&dq=%22edible+book%22&hl=en&ei=uBmiS8urG9OvrAetnPXoCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CF4Q6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=%22edible%20book%22&f=false
fifth reference is a Wikipedia page about a hometown newspaper.
sixth reference appears to be a quote from that same local newspaper: http://www.cleveland.com/books/index.ssf/2010/03/edible_books_robert_sapolsky_a.html
seventh reference appears to be a quote from a blog in Cleveland
eight reference appears to be from a private business website: http://www.loganberrybooks.com/about/
ninth reference is another google for sale book page: http://books.google.co.in/books?id=O_-iFcSpsMYC&pg=PA5&dq=%22edible+book%22+day&hl=en&ei=5RCiS4_-MYHHrAfD0JDbCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CGQQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=%22edible%20book%22%20day&f=false
tenth reference doesn’t exist: http://blogs.uflib.ufl.edu/news/2010/03/15/call-for-readers-and-edible-book-entries/
eleventh reference: ditto
twelfth reference: doesn’t appear to be remotely credible: http://www.worldofdeals.co.uk/other-electronics-deals/top-15-april-fools-2011-shopping-and-deals-pranks
Timwiki99 (talk) 02:39, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- You're fun at parties, aren't you? JanderVK (talk) 03:31, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- I'm sorry JanderVK... is that a constructive comment or just an ad hominem comment? Was this page an April Fool's joke that I just completely missed? :)
Timwiki99 (talk) 11:07, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
* Seriously?
[edit]I see Gobonobo reverted the delete notice with the comment that this appears notable. Did anyone actually really look into the links?
- The first two links are both dead. Please indicate here if you are seeing something I am not.
- The third link goes to a Google book page but if you investigate it further, the book doesnt actually exist in any library nor in any bookseller. Further, the citation in the book related to * Edible Book Day is a reference to THE SECOND REFERENCE above, which DOES NOT EXIST!
- The fourth reference appears to be a completely different event and I don't think I am lacking objectivity when I write that this citation is insignificant.
- The fifth link is just the home page of a magazine having nothing to do with the subject.
- The sixth link - ok, maybe this has some credibility but barely. It reads more like a public service announcement.
- The seventh is a blog and I have questions about its legitimacy[1]
- The eight is a self promotion for the company that seems to sponsor this event and likely gets financial benefit from it.
- The ninth reference is actually talking about the general concept of an edible book contest, it is not a reference to this specific event.
- The 10th reference is dead. Please indicate here if you are seeing something I am not.
- The 11th reference, similar to the ninth, is about generic edible book events.
- The final link / reference is a complete non sequitor.
I guess I have no sense of humor because if this is a legitimate April Fool's Joke it simply isn't funny. Timwiki99 (talk) 12:37, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Timwiki99: This year there are edible book festivals at the University of Illinois and the University of Wisconsin, while the one at Duke University is on hiatus. So this is clearly a real thing. On April 1st the main page often features articles that seem to be made up but aren't. I don't disagree that the referencing needs some help here though. My sense is that even if we removed all the bad references and blogs, we would still be able to find adequate reliable sources to warrant an article so I removed the prod. gobonobo + c 14:13, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- er, um.... ok. But did you really review the citations? It may be more appropriate to rename the page "Edible Book Days" or "Edible Book Celebrations" and adjust the entry to be more generic. (Side note: what does "removed the prod" mean?). Anyway, thanks for your thoughts. Timwiki99 (talk) 16:44, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Timwiki99: Prod refers to the template you used to propose that the article be deleted — Template:Proposed deletion. I did take a look at most of references. It looks like different events use different names for the event, so it may be worthwhile to consider renaming. If you see the books2eat.com site, which is a sort of umbrella organization for the events, they use International Edible Book Festival. Otherwise, if we're referring to edible book festivals in general, it might be best to use a lowercase title. gobonobo + c 02:42, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
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