Talk:Eighth note

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Regional variation in term[edit]

"eighth note (United States) or a quaver (rest of world)" is not true. In Sweden we use "åttondelsnot" (eighth-part-note). It's probably the same for the rest of Scandinavia and possibly also Germany, (music terms in Sweden is, most often, of German origin). // Solkoll 13:27, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I think whoever wrote that meant "rest of the English-speaking world". America, like Sweden, takes much of its musical vocabulary from German, because of the prevalence of German expatriots in American orchestras of the 19th century. They also call the leader of the orchestra the "concert master", from Konzertmeister. --Doric Loon 20:01, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
I realized the same problem, so I was bold and changed 'rest of world' to 'Commonwealth'. Deltabeignet 03:58, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

typo or wrong word chosen[edit]

In the following sentence: "In the climatic ending of Close Encounters Of the Third Kind ..." I believe the third word should be "climactic." I'm new here, so I'll let someone else fix it. (I'll get the hang of this yet.) NewJerseygirl (talk) 01:31, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, don't think the weather had owt much to do with the ending of that particular film.

Eighth or twelfth??[edit]

We define an eighth note as one-eighth of a whole note. This is from the following tree:

  • 1 whole note
  • 2 half notes
  • 4 quarter notes
  • 8 eighth notes
  • 16 sixteenth notes
  • 32 thirty-second notes etc.

However, this is in fact the simple time tree, which is one of two versions of the tree of note durations. There is also the compound time tree:

  • 1 dotted whole note
  • 2 dotted half notes
  • 4 dotted quarter notes
  • 12 eighth notes
  • 24 sixteenth notes
  • 48 thirty-second notes etc.

Has anyone planned to give this note a flexible enough definition that allows it to be defined in both simple and compound time?? Georgia guy (talk) 14:19, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Mathematically, it's all the same. There are 8 eighth notes to a whole note and 12 to a dotted whole note, no matter what the time signature is. Of course, most common time signature do not allow for a dotted whole note. Wschart (talk) 21:05, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

North American bias[edit]

Why is this article entitled "Eighth note" when, as it says itself, this terminology is restricted to two countries. All other English-speaking countries -- including England itself -- use the term "quaver". This article should be entitled "quaver", with "eighth note" redirecting to it. Tomalak Geret'kal (talk) 10:47, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Check WP:ENGVAR. This article is governed by WP:RETAIN, which says that because an American English speaker first wrote the article, American English wins a tie between equally valid Englishes. I've added the American English template to the top of this discussion page to clarify.