Talk:Electoral system of New Zealand
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[edit]To do:
- Electorate boundary determination
- General expansion
- more sources (e.g. Boston et al., New Zealand Under MMP)
- description of Sainte-Lague
- when elections occur
- recalculate Gallagher Index on final result. Provisional figures at User:Fanx/NZ election#Gallagher Index, 2008
please add to list --GeLuxe 07:12, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Nov/Dec tradition
[edit]It is hard to say that the tradition of elections being in November or December has fallen out of tradition, since all the elections that haven't, other than 1996, have been snap elections or the few elections after them where the latest possible date falls a few months short. Silenceisfoo 12:28, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
I have advised the webmaster at elections.org.nz of the fact that clicking on the External Link Two Ticks? Too Easy! - MMP Basics gives a good 'ol 404: Page Not Found, so it should be fixed in a few days. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martinburton (talk • contribs) 00:07, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Copyright problem
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- As far as I can see, there is no copyright issue with any of the sources that material comes from. Material taken from the New Zealand Electoral Commission is covered by this statement: The copyright in all materials contained or available on this website is subject to the copyright laws of New Zealand...You are free to use, store, copy and reproduce copyright content from this website for non-commercial purposes as long as you acknowledge this website as the source and include the document URL and its "last updated" date in your citation.
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- I've just reverted your reversion ,as I say in my edit summary, the problem here is that both of the sites you mention only allow non-commercial use. Although Wikipedia itself is non-commercial we allow the use of Wikipedia content by all, including commercial entities, hence material on Wikipedia cannot be for non-commercial use only (and indeed, for similar reasons, must be licensed under one of the licenses listed at WP:CFAQ). Please do not restore this material without further discussion. Dpmuk (talk) 07:21, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Wikepedia does not allow the use of content for commercial purposes. All text on Wikipedia is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike 3.0 Unported License which is a non-commercial licence. I have reverted your reversion. Please do not remove this material without further discussion. Offender9000 08:26, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
- Not so. Please read [5], where it clearly states:
Daveosaurus (talk) 11:09, 15 December 2012 (UTC)You are free:
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Content Missing
[edit]Because of deletions by editors concerned about copyright, this article now contains no information on who has the right to vote in New Zealand, women getting the vote in New Zealand and nothing about Maori seats in parliament. There is a long history behind these issues - which need to be covered in this article. Offender9000 19:04, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
- The article is not locked from editing. You are very welcome to expand it, in line with the copyright requirements explained above and at your talk page. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:06, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
- I have reverted this change in accordance with WP:TALK. It's important to maintain an accurate record of conversation. You should not alter notes to which somebody else has already responded without following the recommended practices there, such as clearly indicating what you've changed and when. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:51, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
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Sainte-Lague doesn’t favor small parties.
[edit]Saint-Lague is the most unbiased of the divisor allocation rules (which include Sainte-Lague, d’Hondt, & the U.S. apportionment-rule called Huntington-Hill or “equal-proportions).
Sainte-Lague is very slightly biased in favor of large parties. Huntington-Hill is about twice as biased, in favorable of small parties (states, actually, because it’s used for apportionment).
d’Hondt is much more strongly biased in favor of large parties.
There’s an entirely unbiased allocation-rule. It was proposed on 2006,under the name “Bias-Free”.
Where Sainte-Lague’sround-off point, R, between the consecutive seats-numbers a & b is:
(a+b)/2,
For Bias/Free, to calculator R:
Divide b^b by a^a. Then divide the result by e.
…where e is the base of the natural logarithms, = about 2.718…
That’s called the “identric mean” of a & b.
2600:6C55:7900:2B8:C9A3:8085:9BD7:6B7A (talk) 23:26, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- The text currently reads:
list seats are allocated by the Sainte-Laguë method, which favours minor parties more than the alternative D'Hondt method
That appears to be consistent with what you say. Or should that be reworded? Schwede66 23:50, 11 December 2023 (UTC)- I wouldn’t say that it favors small parties, because a lot of people believe that it actually does. I’d instead say that Sainte-Lague is unbiased for practical purposes, though it very slightly favors large parties. …& that d’Hondt very strongly favors large parties. 2600:6C55:7900:2B8:B1D2:139A:4D0D:3287 (talk) 04:16, 12 December 2023 (UTC)