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Need help with Russian language names[edit]

Artem Ponomarenko, my guess is that you speak English, too. I see you work on Russian-language rowing articles. I could really do with a hand, as I'm struggling with names of Russian rowers. I'm setting up individual pages for the European Rowing Championships, and the sources are mostly in German. The Soviet rowers' spelling of their German names is often vastly different to their English names. I'm creating Wikidata items in parallel so that there's at least some name consistency between the different years. Is there a chance you giving me a hand with this task? Schwede66 00:40, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

  • Firstly. thank you Schwede66for what you do! Secondly, yes, indeed - I`m ready to help you. Just prepare for me some name list and I will translate for you. Artem Ponomarenko (talk) 09:22, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your response back in February, Artem Ponomarenko. I've gone backwards in the European Rowing Championships to WWII (1947 European Rowing Championships was the first event after the war) and read up about the Soviet Union's rowing history (which is somewhat fascinating). In short, following the 1917 October Revolution, the Soviet Union didn't compete internationally and nobody seemed to know that they even had rowing as a sport. It seems that their first international appearance was the 1952 Summer Olympics where they came second in the medal rankings. Very soon, they became a dominant force.

We have three good sources for Soviet Union participation in international rowing events:

  • Sports Reference is a database holding entries for all Olympic competitors. I've found that they seem to get common names right at an impressive rate.
  • The FISA database, on the other hand, is riddled with all sorts of mistakes and it is clear that their quality control processes are poor.
  • Sport Komplett is a German database that, amongst other things, lists medal winners of European Rowing Championships. It seems to be the only source that covers the event from the beginning; only the later years appear in the FISA database. The quality of the data is somewhere in between Sports Reference and FISA.

What I suggest that is worth you looking over are the following series of pages:

  • Firstly, European Rowing Championships starting with 1953 all the way to present day (with a higher emphasis on the older entries)
  • Secondly, World Rowing Championships starting with 1962 all the way to present day (with a higher emphasis on the older entries)
  • Thirdly (if you haven't run out of steam by then), Rowing at the Summer Olympics and its sub-pages starting in 1952. Alternatively, have a look at the various pages covering the Soviet Union at the Summer Olympics. So far, I've created complete entries for the years 1952 to 1968. I'll do the missing 1972, 1976, and 1988 entries soon.

I further suggest that you focus on redlinks first and once they are done, we can deal with existing article titles. In parallel, we'll update items on Wikidata or add new entries if there isn't an entry already. What I'll do is watchlist all the above articles and I'll see when you make changes. I'll do the changes in Wikidata in parallel to what you do.

Does that sound like a good plan? Do you have other ideas how we should go about this? Should I create a list of articles here that get ticked off once they've been checked? This can potentially quite a bit of work. For example, it's taken me from late December 2017 until now to write the 1947 to 1973 entries for the European Rowing Championships; that said, I've updated and amended quite a few rowing bios, as well as starting some 300 rowing bios in support of all this. Schwede66 21:23, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Schwede66! Sorry, but at the moment I am out of game. Before I had severe disease of flu and now I still have bad effects on my arm. I can't work properly. But I will be keep in my mind about our deals. Artem Ponomarenko (talk) 16:07, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
Uh, I'm sorry to hear that you aren't well, Artem Ponomarenko. Get better soon! There's no hurry with any of this; after all, we are all volunteers. Good if it happens later this year, but no trouble if it takes longer than that. Schwede66 18:17, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for your responsiveness! Artem Ponomarenko (talk) 19:45, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Autopatrolled[edit]

Our discussion over the autopatrolled right was archived. What would you like to do? ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 19:54, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder; see Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Autopatrolled. Schwede66 21:48, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Biographies[edit]

How does Denise Wilson measure up? Looks like I'm getting back into the swing of these after my injury, with no difficulty typing, thankfully. Stuartyeates (talk) 10:01, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. Fixing the template certainly made a difference. Schwede66 19:08, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Beyond starts ?[edit]

Wonder if you think any of these have got close enough to C Class - Peter Antonie; Anthony Edwards; Sally Newmarch; Josh Dunkley-Smith; David Crawshay; Daniel Noonan; Geoffrey Stewart; Drew Ginn ? They're certainly all highly accomplished oarsmen/women. Rgds -Sticks66 12:08, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Sticks66, good work! I enjoy seeing all these bios turning into something really useful. They are now all C class; Anthony Edwards had been rated that already. You might want to give MOS:AMP a read. Schwede66 19:08, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
Pretty happy with this one too User:Schwede66 : Robert Scott (rower) - a rowing high achiever. C-Class ?-Sticks66 12:26, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
Sticks66 Good work. Have improved it further. Schwede66 19:59, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

@Schwede66: Could you re-assess the class of Paul Guest (rower) for me please ? -Sticks66 08:33, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Oh dear. I've replied on your talk page about a copyviolation. Schwede66 19:02, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

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Jacinda Ardern and Winston Peters[edit]

Both articles are coming under repeated attack by an ip. Please look at this with a view to blocking the ip. Akld guy (talk) 06:25, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Akld guy Yes, but there's IP hopping going on. I've thus semi-protected the pages for a week which means that only autoconfirmed users can edit. If it starts up again after the protection expires let me know and I'll extend it. Schwede66 08:48, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
TYVM. Akld guy (talk) 08:51, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.12 30 July 2018[edit]

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months. (Purge)

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John MacMillan[edit]

Hi. I wasn't sure what the best approach was with these two biographies. Took me a while to spot they had the same name on SR after I did the recat on Édouard Leguery to drop the 1952 numbers down to 403! Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 09:55, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

@Lugnuts: Have come across this before; we had three politicians in New Zealand all with the same name (can't recall the name, though; they are all long dead). Thanks for spotting the incorrect Olympic year for Leguery. Schwede66 10:02, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
No problem. The world of cricket brings up similar issues from time to time too. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 10:08, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Golden Bridge (disambiguation)[edit]

Hello there
Regarding this: I stand corrected about the de:WP thing; I wasn't looking in the right place! But the objection remains; redlinks do not belong on dab pages (If there isn't an article here on a subject, there's nothing to disambiguate, after all), so the link still needs to go. Happy editing, Moonraker12 (talk) 14:06, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

@Moonraker12: You may need to stand corrected on that red link issue as well. At wp:disambiguation, the example for Urney contains two red links and the text beneath the example gives the rules for red links on dab pages. Have a look. Schwede66 18:07, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
Interesting: Though it seems to contradict What not to include: I've raised a query at the Dab talkpage if you want to chip in.
On this, though; you probably need to mention the thing on the Dusseldorf page if that is to be your blue link. And my other issue was whether there is enough to justify a red link here; AFAICT it is not even as notable as the as the bridge in Stanley Park (viz); though it seems you can buy it at the moment on eBay (Who knew?)
I suppose taking the link out, and resting on the blue link in the description, would look more natural; how about that? Moonraker12 (talk) 19:48, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
WP:REDYES applies. Why would somebody looking for the Golden Bridge in Düsseldorf not be told on the dab page that this particular article does not exist yet? And by providing a red link we encourage the creation of the article. There is nothing wrong with red links on Wikipedia; you seem to be under the impression that there is something inherently wrong. It isn't. With regards to inclusion in the target article, I'll look into that. Schwede66 20:00, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
@Moonraker12: Are you happy with my 'solution'? Schwede66 21:41, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
Seriously? You wrote an article on some mickey-mouse bridge in some urban park somewhere rather than simply unlinking the term? Bloody hell! Moonraker12 (talk) 22:35, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
PS: If you are going to claim it is heritage listed, you will need a source to verify that: I couldn't find one, but you are better at the German stuff than me, so... Moonraker12 (talk) 22:37, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

revert[edit]

[1] actually the article was a Wikipedia:Orphan and I was trying to link it to a relevant page however I understand your revert--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 00:12, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Why unreviewed changes are bad[edit]

In this edit your script changed many small bits of article DiDi (company). Including changing

===Didi Dache (June, 2012 - February, 2015)===

to

===Didi Dache (June 2012 – February 2015)===

Unfortunately section names are addressable from other articles. Well hey, they're addressable from the same article, as is seen in DiDi (company):

Formed from the merger of rival firms Didi Dache and Kuaidi Dache ...

where Didi Dache is now a redirect to DiDi (company)#Didi Dache (June, 2012 - February, 2015)

Only... the commas are now gone, the link anchor is gone, and so the article link now just ends up at top of article. Kinda useless. Shenme (talk) 13:08, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Oh, hmm. Special:WhatLinksHere/Didi_Dache Shenme (talk) 13:12, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
Shenme, I'm sorry that my edit broke an anchor. I am also sorry having to inform you that your assumption that I do not review my changes before I save them is entirely wrong. How am I supposed to know that the heading is being linked to? Editors usually place a hidden note at the target when they use an anchor, as per the guidance at WP:TARGET, but there wasn't one. And just a wee tip; you never place a comma between a month and a year (refer to MOS:BADDATE) and in a date range, you use an endash; never a hyphen (refer to MOS:DATERANGE). Those were the issues that my edit tidied up in that instance. Don't hesitate to ask if you have further questions. Schwede66 18:38, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

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Bishop Matthews sources[edit]

Hi Schwede, I am sorry to delete the source. It was a mistake and I will put it back.Emendment (talk) 09:08, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

@Emendment: Great. Mistakes happen. No worries. Schwede66 10:38, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

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Gunther Zumkeller[edit]

Hi: thanks for catching that. However, I think there should still be a category for Living people since he is still alive; I see there is a category for year of birth missing (living people); they are usually used together; is it ok if I add the Living people category to the article? Thanks --FeanorStar7 09:59, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

@FeanorStar7: Sorry for late reply. Yes, please add missing categories to the article. I mustn't have noticed that some are missing. Schwede66 20:51, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

James Cracknell[edit]

Hi Schwede66. James Cracknell competed in the double sculls in 1996 (source). However, he's not mentioned in the wiki article, and I'm not sure how/where to add this. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 09:08, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

@Lugnuts: No trouble. I can see what happened and will work it in. Schwede66 10:26, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
Thank you! Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 10:50, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
Hi Lugnuts, it seems David Biddulph has beaten me to it but I've added some prose to explain what was going on. Schwede66 19:58, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.13 18 September 2018[edit]

Hello Schwede66, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

The New Page Feed currently has 2700 unreviewed articles, up from just 500 at the start of July. For a while we were falling behind by an average of about 40 articles per day, but we have stabilised more recently. Please review some articles from the back of the queue if you can (Sort by: 'Oldest' at Special:NewPagesFeed), as we are very close to having articles older than one month.

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Kate Sheppard[edit]

Hi Schwede66, can you pls check a couple of inconsistencies? The new ten-dollar note is mentioned as 1991 and 1992 (sources differ). Also for White Ribbon 'the' is capitalised twice and lowercase twice. Thanks, JennyOz (talk) 05:42, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

@JennyOz: Thanks for being in touch. I've fixed it to read The White Ribbon. It gives two different years for the ten-dollar note because sources differ; somebody one day will know when exactly they were first issued. BTW, posting this on the Kate Sheppard article talk page would probably have got swifter attention. Schwede66 11:26, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Schwede66, JennyOz (talk) 11:33, 19 September 2018 (UTC)