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The article is yclept Emanuel Philibert, but throughout the text the form "Emanuel Filiberto" is used, as if hybridisation with the Italian name of the ruler (Emanuele Filiberto) took place. If in English Emmanuel Philibert is indeed the most used form, then there should be IMO a mere reference to his "real" name, then the English name should dominate the entry. So, which one is one to keep? --Tridentinus 09:10, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to have been fixed/ But I’ll add the Italian version of the name. ±Ian Spackman 14:56, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sources?

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No sources are mentioned here, but the last portion of this article looks a bit similar to what the following link has:

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Perhaps one can add this or whatever sources Britannica used.

Language change

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To my knowledge, Emmanuel-Philibert de Savoie officially changed the language of law from Latin to French, not "Italian." (Could someone mean "palata" / dialetto toscano the "Tuscan dialect" here? FYI: The first attempt at creating a national Italian language did not even begin until after 1612, after the redicovery of Dante's De vulgari eloquentia was used as a basis for a first dictionary.) Certainly, vital records that I have examined from Emmanuel-Philibert's age and those immediately subsequent are all in French. I am not aware that Italian dialects appeared in official pronouncements or law by the House of Savoy until after Napoléon's defeat and the Kingdom of Sardinia-Piedmont-Savoy was restored, ca. 1805. Late 18th-century military records in Piedmontese dialect are an exception. On the other hand, I have only spent a few months working in the Archivio di Stato (on Via S. Chiara) in Torino. -- If someone has an English source for the statement that Emmanuel-Philibert replaced Latin with "Italian" instead of French, please cite it. I doubt it is true. Charvex (talk) 09:29, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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