Talk:Emmet (Cornish)
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[edit]is emmett actually cornish language? i thought it was dialect? 131.111.8.98
this last revision doesnt make sense Emmet is an English form of the word ant, both descending from Old English æmete.
- Ant is an English word, so Emmet cannot be an English form of it
- both what are decended from æmete? is it both ant and emmet are derived from the word æmete? this could do with rewording
I'm not really sure what the author is trying to say, so I've just r'ved it for now until it can be cleared up. I've heard before that Emmet is derived from Old English rather than Cornish, but some clarity here would be apreciated.
Mammal4 14:38, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
- "Emmet is an English form of the word ant, both descending from Old English æmete."
- Obviously means both ant and emmet descend from Old English æmete. Perhaps too complicated for Wikipedia.
- 84.135.247.81 09:31, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
I've had a look at two Cornish dictionaries (An English-Cornish And Cornish-English Dictionary - R. Morton Nance (1955) and Gerlyvrik/Mini-Dictionary - Kesva An Taves Kernewek (2005)) and neither define emmet as the Cornish word for ant(s), muryon (pl) and muryonen are used. Nor are there any words in Cornish that are similar to emmet in spelling. I imagine that the Cornish have adopted the word from english at some point in the past and it has become 'common knowledge' that is a Cornish word. Gothesque 16:00, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
- Excellent research - just needs to be integrated into text now Mammal4 07:22, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
I understood that it was dialect, 'em 'at's not local.
Are tourists often red in colour?! I think the milling/swarming/unwanted aspect is the true analogy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nvw (talk • contribs) 16:56, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
- Norman Rogers in his book Wessex Dialect published in 1979 defines 'emmet' as a dialect word for an ant. He does not confine it to Cornwall.
- OR, but my father (1921 - 2004) used the word for an ant regularly as far back as my memory reaches. We lived in Wiltshire. I think its pejorative form to describe tourists dates back only to mid-20th century. This article requires a complete overhaul and retitling because emmet is definitely not originally Cornish. See above. Richard Avery (talk) 13:01, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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