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Technically, the Orthodox generally say they do not know when the consecration occurs. Thus it is not correct to say that no consecration occurs without an epiclesis. Many Orthodox believe that the Words of Institution used in the Roman liturgy imply an unstated epiclesis.
--Sophroniscus 01:04, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The translations given for the Byzantine liturgies of Saint John Chrysostom and Saint Basil the Great are unsourced. As a result, the alteration made by OrthodoxLinguist cannot be checked. OrthodoxLinguist's change corresponds to what is given in The Divine Liturgy of Saint Basil the Great of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America, but that source differs in many other points also from what the article states. The text in the article gives the impression of being taken from an authoritative source, but if that source is not identified, the whole section will have to be revised to make it correspond to the text in some reliable source. Who can help? Esoglou (talk) 07:52, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
The use of the word "epiclesis" is not restricted to the technical vocabulary of Christian churches, it is used also in Classical Mythology and ancient religion for the cult titles or epithets of heroes and divinities ("Athena Glaucopis", "Mars Victor / Ultor…", etc. etc.). — Preceding unsigned comment added by FJLedoLemos (talk • contribs) 12:31, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
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