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It may be misleading to say Esequiel Hernandez is the first American citizen killed by the U.S. military since Kent State. A significant number of American citizens have been killed by American soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen since that time - probably in most cases while the servicemen were on leave, off duty or AWOL. Many other citizens have died as a result of vehicular and other accidents caused by servicemen, as well. Presumably Mr. Hernandez was the first intentionally killed during a military operation. This is significant, but hardly the first killing of a citizen by servicemen since Kent State. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JFrawley032759 (talk • contribs) 17:15, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

While on duty is the qualifier. MMetro (talk) 03:39, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PBS will be showing "The Ballad of Esequiel Hernandez" on P.O.V. tonight. --Coyoty 23:14, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Prosecutor

Who prosecuted his murder? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.136.219.162 (talk) 12:55, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Justice Department, Department of the Navy and the local prosecutor declined to prosecute the killing.Jeff (talk) 17:42, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It might be obvious, but he did shoot at them first. Legally speaking, that isn't murder, is self-defense. V. Joe (talk) 01:52, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

He did not "shoot at them." The marines were camouflaged and presumed to be invisible to Hernandez. It is not self-defense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hyperliner (talk • contribs) 09:01, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The marines were not on a drug patrol

The Marines were not on a drug patrol. They had been on a training mission to observe drug activity, had completed that mission, and were waiting to be picked up. They were uphill and well camoflaged and they had no need to follow Hernandez at all.

65.68.190.60 (talk) 22:01, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ken State: National Guard under Title 32 vs Title 10

Saying that the Ken State shooting was from United States Armed Forces is misleading and imprecise. At the time of the event, the National Guard Soldiers were not Federalized and were under the command of the State Governor, not the Federal Government. Check the difference between title 10 and title 32 status for National Guard as it pertains to Defense Support to Civil Authorities.

Yep, I fixed the issue, considering the statement is very misleading, as the National Guard are not active duty personnel. XXzoonamiXX (talk) 07:17, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]