Talk:EuroBasket 2011 Group C

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Greece

What's the problem with Greece? Greece won three matches and lost one - the same thing goes for Macedonia as well. Both teams are qualified, we wait for the third one.--MacedonianBoy (talk) 20:09, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why don't you follow the official standings?--MacedonianBoy (talk) 20:14, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Don´t get your problem? MKD is ahead of GRE in the standings because they defeated them yesterday. Kante4 (talk) 20:16, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but the official statistics says that Greece is before Macedonia and both teams are for sure in the next stage. Why Greece is not in green? I found this standing different then FIBA's. Usually they count the difference first. --MacedonianBoy (talk) 20:18, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

They always use H2H first, they change it after the preliminary round, don´t know why but that has been done the last years. Don´t know if Greece is through already... Kante4 (talk) 20:21, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I see. There are different methods. We'll know for sure tomorrow who qualifies and with how many points. Best--MacedonianBoy (talk) 20:23, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

On H2H, Greece will be fourth in a four-way-tie b/c it only beat BIH. Therfore it is not qualified. Anyone has an official source on the tie-break rules?--Nitsansh (talk) 20:27, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Greece will be forth in H2H only if Croatia wins tomorrow, otherwise, it will be better then Croatia and BiH. Macedonia is better then Greece and Croatia, we do not know about BiH. --MacedonianBoy (talk) 21:56, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Greece can be eliminated only if both CRO and BIH win. Croatia can qualify only if both them and BIH win. BIH will qualify if they win or CRO lose.--Nitsansh (talk) 22:06, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, that's what I thought. Cheers--MacedonianBoy (talk) 22:09, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, BIH will qualify if they win, or if CRO and FIN both lose. CRO will qualify only if they win regardless of other results.--Nitsansh (talk) 00:37, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It would make more sense to follow the official rankings as given on the official webpage, rather than inventing a different one. The rest of the Groups on Wikipedia are doing this (check for example Group A, where UK is ranked below Poland, despite having won against them). What counts for the temporary rankings is score difference (offence/defence), meaning that the ranking as given on the wiki page here is wrong. What is used in case of a tie is of no interest as far as temp rankings are concerned. Not that it really matters, just saying...(Getas75 (talk) 15:27, 5 September 2011 (UTC)).[reply]

Whoever is in charge of the official website doesn't seem to know the tie-break rules...--Nitsansh (talk) 19:45, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]