Talk:Flight instruments

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This page should be formatted with standard headings and

tags like Pitot-static system Dhaluza 17:26, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Basic T info[edit]

Was this part not important?

The arrangement was chosen to optimise pilot instrument scanning and is mandated in the US by FAA Regulation 25.1321(b).[1]

It didn't make the merge. Just wondering. -Fnlayson (talk) 22:55, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Merger proposal[edit]

I'm proposing that Basic Six be merged with the page on Flight Instruments. Flight Instruments already has a section on instrument arrangement, has better sourcing, and has better pictures. Mmoople (talk) 08:14, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, merge them, there's no need to have separate articles. (talk) 15:57, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes, quite agree. Wittlessgenstein (talk) 22:17, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes. Basic Six must be merged with Flight instruments. The basic six and basic T arrangements are very significant items of information, but they are a sub-set of the information that is, and should be, presented in Flight instruments. Having this information in a separate article diminishes the value of Wikipedia, either because it causes duplication or this valuable information is not available in Flight instruments. The time has come to transfer the information into Flight instruments and re-direct Basic Six to Flight instruments. Dolphin51 (talk) 22:24, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

I take the above as being consensus in favour, so I have merged the text and redirected Basic Six here. (talk) 09:15, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Strange layouts in the early days[edit]

In the early days, were there any unusual layouts of the flight instrument panel? The main article could be improved with a paragraph or two on which dials were most likely subject to random relocation, and which ones were almost always laid down side by side each other. (talk) 03:38, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Generally there was no fixed or standard layout for any instruments until the Royal Air Force (RAF) 'Basic Six' was introduced in 1937, the aircraft designers putting instruments anywhere they liked. The only exceptions were that multi-engined aircraft usually had the engine instruments side by side, i.e., grouped together. This lack of standardisation made conversions between aircraft-types unnecessarily difficult, and so the Basic Six was developed to minimise this - the same set of six flight instruments in the same arrangement were used in every RAF aircraft, large or small - see image. The Basic Six was then modified slightly to the arrangement that is still used today.
The Basic Six panel (labelled 'Standard RAF Blind Flying Panel') in the cockpit of a Vampire aircraft

History of instruments[edit]

What instruments were available in the early aircraft? For instance, pre-WWI, WWI aircraft, dirigibles, etc? - (talk) 10:29, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


You forgot the horizon. This is more important that any of the other instruments. The reason the articifical horizons are used in the event the natural horizon is not visable. Arydberg (talk) 00:32, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Missing instruments[edit]

A list of instruments is:

  • gyrocompass
  • compass
  • turn indicator
  • climb/descend speed meter
  • altitudemeter
  • clock
  • automatic direction finder (ADF) indicator
  • very high frequency omnidirectional (VOR) radio
  • Ammeter
  • fuel meter
  • Tachometer
  • oil temperature meter
  • carburator preheating switch
  • fuel tank selector
  • switch for flaps
  • GPS receiver with display
  • combined radio and VOR navigation set 1
  • combined radio and VOR navigation set 2
  • distance measuring equipment
  • automatic direction finder control panel
  • transponder

Check which ones of these are still missing in article (talk) 10:48, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

I have removed the following paragraph as it is utter crap, the author is making it up:

"But on large jet airliners, landing without any functional artificial horizon, then the landing will most presumably not end well. It's impossible to a pilot (of a large aircraft) to estimate if the aircraft flies without a banking of f.i 3-4 degrees at landing setting. And if only one side of the central gear wheels touches ground (in a speed of 140-150 knots), a disaster is the most likely result. " — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:43, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

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