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Lots of preconceived opinions and erroneous ones. The conditions in which experminets were held were strict and Kluski, in his home, was even stripped and dressed in previously checked pyjamas. There were always people holding his hands and watching over his legs and feets. Regarding moulds which were obtained in International Metapsychic Institute, there's a document of mould expert, who determined that forms couldn't be made of gloves or artificial limbs, for details reflected on it were human-like, with skin, tensed muscles imprints. (Published in Revue Métapsychique, January–February 1921, p. 16.) And there were people observing it. Reach in details report from meetings with Kluski are in polish book - https://kpbc.umk.pl/dlibra/publication/75197/edition/81541?language=pl. He died of tuberculosis.

Revue Métapsychique is not a reliable source. The seances were all in dark conditions, he could have got a hand easily free. The fraudulent Kluski "spirit" molds have easily been reproduced by natural methods by magicians. As Massimo Polidoro noted "It is interesting that one thesis of Kluski’s advocates supporting the authenticity of the phenomenon assumes that the molds the medium obtained during the séances were so tight at the wrist that it was impossible for a hand to come out. Although this statement, as demonstrated, is not true, of all the molds kept at the Institut Mètapsychique International almost none have this characteristic. The majority of the molds either end before the narrow part of the hand or include only the external, visible half of them, never the internal half. The discovery of this fact was just what induced us to try to reproduce the phenomenon of the spirit molds." [1]. This stuff has been debunked and is outright fakery. It's ridiculous that some credulous psychic believers still think this stuff is real evidence for spirits. Psychologist Guy (talk) 13:14, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What a pity that intelligent effects can not be ridiculed as fraudulent, when a medium describes an unknown person and he or she is recognized by the family, or when data is revealed, which leads to finding of a thing etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djfoanr (talk • contribs) 15:59, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]