Talk:Frank Bough

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Wife[edit]

Is he stil married to Nesta Howells? F W Nietzsche (talk) 00:18, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cancer[edit]

This article states he had a liver transplant in 2001 after cancer was found. It doesn't make it clear if the cancer was actually in his liver (rather than simply near to it and/or likely to spread there); if there was cancer in his liver, he is very lucky to be alive: it is rare to survive it; the large majority of people diagnosed with liver cancer (both primary and secondary) are dead within a year of diagnosis. F W Nietzsche (talk) 00:18, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oswestry Town FC[edit]

I heard that he once played for Oswestry Town. Does anyone know if this is in fact true? I'll see if I can find any citations anywhere Martyn Smith (talk) 18:29, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

boasting to Fern Britton about the size of his penis[edit]

An editor undid my addition relating to the story about Frank Bough chatting up the prominent daytime TV personality Fern Britton and boasting about the size of his penis as "unconstructive." The edit was made immediately, and given the time involved, there can have been no opportunity for reflection on his part.

I would like to respectfully disagree. The story, which is contained in Fern Britton's book and reported in The Times, is illustrative of the man's attitude and values, and adds to an understanding of wider events reported in that section of the Wikipedia entry, and of contemporary social mores, especially in the context of the television industry in the United Kingdom of the time. If the entry includes mention of Frank Bough's penchant for cocaine and cross-dressing there is certainly legitimate scope for illustrating his chat-up technique. 79.69.237.143 (talk) 18:43, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How do we know this is true, rather than someone trying to “sex up” a biography? These are totally untested rumours. Rustygecko (talk) 14:31, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mistakes[edit]

This article is interesting but seems disjointed and appears to contain mistakes and omissions. Bough went to London in 1964 principally to replace Peter Dimmock on Sportsview. His biggest early triumph was his role as main London presenter for the 1968 Mexico Olympics while Coleman did mainly the athletics commentary from the venue. Also Bough's last spell on Grandstand was over the summer of 1982 and he was succeeded by Des Lynam not Coleman whose last Grandstand was the Cup Final of that year. Without sources I've merely corrected the common mistake about the early name of Look North.Jcb336 (talk) 20:58, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

grandstand/VTR[edit]

it's OR, & trivia, but it wants recording somewhere, no pun intended...

during live tv shows in the 60s & 70s & early 80s, VT inserts were played on the somewhat cumbersome but state-of-the-art 2" VTRs that took upwards of five seconds to lock up & be stable enough to cut to air. this made life very difficult for a director, who wouldn't know precisely when to tell the VT operator to run the machine while bough wrapped up a largely off-the-cuff link from the studio. knowing this, bough would estimate the moment when he had approximately six or so seconds of stuff left to say, & discreetly click his biro in shot. the VT operator would see this & run the tape. genius.

duncanrmi (talk) 16:50, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dungeon orgy 'scandal'[edit]

"In Late August 1992, Bough was caught up in a second Scandal when he was caught in a dungeon orgy"

Crazyseiko, have you actually read these refs you provided to support the above statement, or have you merely scanned the excerpts? Where is it established that it was a "scandal" - were there consequences for Bough, did he have to resign or was he sacked as a result, or was it just allegations and tabloids trying to sell copy? PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 22:17, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm rather surprised you have to even question this, it rather common knowledge. Why it been left out of this page for so long is anyone guess. Its the reason why he well lost his jobs again. There was even a TV programme that highlights his second scandal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuLPvxjIQhc&feature=youtu.be&t=2061 BBC has also stated that after this one he went out of the public eye https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-26063499 --Crazyseiko (talk) 22:34, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That doesn't really answer my question - have you actually read the refs that you have provided to establish it was a scandal? "Common knowledge" is irrelevant on Wikipedia, and youtube is not regarded as RS. The BBC obit merely states "In 1992 he was photographed leaving a a sadomasochistic prostitute's flat that, according to newspaper reports, featured a cage and school canes" - that's all it states, with no connection made to any other statement. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 06:45, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

YES, its clear you just not trying, I have added in more information for the ref, which franks says, Orgy and SECOND SCANDAL, these are not red top papers, saying this. THE BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-54684374 " He eventually returned to broadcasting, including fronting ITV's Rugby World Cup coverage, but this came to an end after a further scandal. Bough later spoke of his regret over his actions, saying his behaviour had been "exceedingly stupid"." --Crazyseiko (talk) 09:17, 26 October 2020 (UTC).[reply]

What I am trying to do, is establish whether you have read the refs that you have supplied to support a statement, and it still isn't clear that you have. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 00:25, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If its still unclear then, I'm unable to help you in this regard, I have read them, they have snippets of his interview where he says sorry, the fact he said sorry and talked about this clearly proves that he did. I believe the reason for is I linked to the searches, reason for that is it allows a wider range of people to see this, because if I just put in the papers details most people wouldn't have a clue where to check it. If it will help you I will upload one of the piece so you can read it to prove that I read it. --Crazyseiko (talk) 13:42, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Shipping Management?[edit]

The article states that Bough studied shipping management at Merton College - this is extremely unlikely as those type of practical courses were taught in polytechnics at the time. Rustygecko (talk) 14:29, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, there is no such OU undergraduate degree in that subject even today, and there certainly wasn't when FB was a student. I guess it's not impossible he did some sort of postgrad diploma, either at OU or at the then Oxford Polytechnic, but it seems unlikely. This needs clarification. --Ef80 (talk) 16:25, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]