Talk:General Intelligence and Security Service
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It is funny how the information about the connection between the Dutch Inteligence Agency AIVD and the genocide smuggler Frans van Anraat in the Dutch Wikipedia is censored and the "managers" there, have blocked the page in order to prevent this information to be added to the page! --Mani1 19:23, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
Can this statement be backed up?
"The service's focus on leftist activism is legendary; leftist activists exhibit great measures of paranoia relating to the service's activities, whether real or imaginary. This focus on leftist, rather than right-wing or Islamic organizations is a legacy from the Cold War and historical threats posed by the Red Army Faction and such."
This statement is not backed up with a reference. I don't doubt that it has its roots in fact, but such a contentious statement must surely have a reference. Nach0king 10:15, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Interrogation of prisoners
I deleted the sentence "although their way of interrogating prisoners is questionable" under 'Influence and results'. This is obviously not based in fact. The Dutch security service has no executive powers, it cannot detain people. It can advice the police to detain a person, but any 'questionable' behaviour then can only be attributed to the police. --Tymen 22:41, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
It's true that the AIVD had been critised for the Kahn-affaire. But investigation by Dutch journalists revealed that Kahn was deliberately left alone. This was ordered by the CIA, as former Dutch prime minister Lubbers told on record. See http://www.ochtenden.nl/artikelen/25234685/ (in Dutch, unfortunately)
Adding the "unreferenced" tag
Per the comment above, I don't doubt that alot of this articel is true, but it's SO UNREFERENCED that I couldn't let that pass without doing something. Anyone speak Dutch and/or know good, LEGIT, sources for this org? 188.8.131.52 03:43, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
- Added a english source. It was indeed claimed by the former prime minister. AlexP (talk) 18:39, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
many people in The Netherlands call the BVD/AiVD (De Klompen "clog" Gestapo) due to their total incapability in the 60/70 and later to stay out of international news "elephant in a china shop". should be added to their reputation locally. Markthemac (talk) 03:32, 24 July 2009 (UTC)