Talk:Ghisolfi

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Ghisolfi was a History good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
January 15, 2007	Good article nominee	Not listed

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That Ivan III is called czar in this article, coupled with numerous spelling mistakes, casts doubts on the valdity of its content. --Ghirla ^-трёп- 13:26, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See the article on Czar. Ivan III did use the title in correspondence etc. Ivan IV was the first to formally incorporate the title in his coronation. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 15:54, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yaroslav the Wise also used this title, but we don't call him tsar, do we? By the way, don't you think that Zacharias de Ghisolfi is better be split into separate article? --Ghirla ^-трёп- 16:08, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So we don't have to call him Czar if you don't want to. My point was that the quotation from Ivan's letter is not in se unreliable because it uses the word Czar, as Ivan III did use the title. I'm not sure that there is enough info to warrant splitting Zacharias off but I'm not opposed to the idea. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 18:25, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GAC

Well-written: Pass
Factually accurate: Pass
Broad: Fail
Neutrally written: Pass
Stable: Pass
Well-referenced: Pass
Images: Pass

There are things that I could pick apart on this article, and I would not pass it anyway, but I won't even get to them, because this article has a very glaring problem. The article name is "Ghisolfi", and the lead talks about the Ghisolfi family, and what it was and when it was, but then the rest of the article is about Zacharias de Ghisolfi. As the title of the article is not Zacharias de Ghisolfi, that is a problem. Move the article to Zacharias de Ghisolfi, change the lead to talk about him rather than the family he was a part of, and try again. --PresN 04:54, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]